I keep seeing people saying that Dan should leave JK and JK is toxic blah blah. That may b...

sofia29 September 12, 2023 9:41 pm

I keep seeing people saying that Dan should leave JK and JK is toxic blah blah. That may be the case if they’re lovers, but they’re not. They’re in a paid relationship guys. Dan is with JK to pay his debt and JK is with Dan for sex. It’s purely transactional rn. Idk why the readers keep jumping the gun and being like “that’s not how you should treat your partner”

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    Torakaze September 17, 2023 2:20 am
    Their english is good if its not their first language but im genuinely not the type of person to use their english being bad as an insult im just trying yo understand sometimes Pee

    Figures you are cowering again.
    Thank you for exposing your ignorance and toxicity. My apologies I didn’t write the majority of my latest posts. Most were borrowed. So many native English speakers with English not being their first language because either you are trolling or uneducated. Sorry this can’t be just our mistakes. Multiple people write my posts. Including Unrelated people I don’t know.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-attack-your-grammar-or-wordage-instead-of-dealing-with-your-argument. There are more than just that. However, you are saying 8 or more people have bad English for your selfish pleasure of hurting others. Fact: What it is you see how better the English is than your own. Your comments are in poor grammar and have bad spelling. You notice how we care about our English as you are more relaxed (or don’t care) about yours. I am not saying you are uneducated or can’t write better. You probably could write better. I am saying your comments at this time are worse than ours. It exposes your intentions not your intelligence. Grammar don’t reflect someone’s intelligence. That is a stereotype.
    Yah, Most trolls want to upset people, and make fools of them, for their own gratification. That is what you two are doing. But they end up being the laughing stock of the forum. I can’t stop you from being a joke. I tried. Rose tried. TMSM tied. Why do you think we call out your bad behavior.

    Your comments prove you are a coward.
    If you’re not afraid, then you should stop hiding and talk to us with honor. You’re showing how weak you are.
    This is to both of you.
    Please keep exposing yourself as a coward. Please mature. You are not harming us. You are destroying yourself. You are embarrassing yourself. We are not twisting anything. We are simply calling out your behavior. Rose used a common phrase in English and it claimed that it wasn’t. What if the problem isn’t her. What if she is using common English you have not heard before? She is a native English speaker. Focusing on someone’s English reflects bad on you. It is rude. This all started because TMSM was falsely accused and attacked. If someone doesn’t want to be adult to admitted they are wrong and apologize to TMSM. There is no reason to continue to talking to cowardly people. They have continued to support what TMSMYZ said. Stop being hostile. Be childish elsewhere. Enough is enough.

    Pee September 17, 2023 2:33 am
    Figures you are cowering again. Thank you for exposing your ignorance and toxicity. My apologies I didn’t write the majority of my latest posts. Most were borrowed. So many native English speakers with Engl... Torakaze

    Im not reading allat

    Pee September 17, 2023 2:37 am
    Figures you are cowering again. Thank you for exposing your ignorance and toxicity. My apologies I didn’t write the majority of my latest posts. Most were borrowed. So many native English speakers with Engl... Torakaze

    but anyways from what ive read, ya i dont care about how i write bc this is the internet on a manga website i seriously dont know what u want from me cuz i have not been bullying anyone for their english im just saying i dont clearly understand... And for the record i still dont fully understand some sentences that you and the other person are saying AGAIN, im not bullying you for your english i do not care i literally just asked the other person to repeat what they said cuz i couldnt understand... And idk wtf went down before but i wasnt part of it cuz idk who tf u are anyone else who is tryna start these huge paragraph essay worthy beef with me ur literally arguing with the wall cuz im not arguing with you im trying to have a conversation but you think im bullying someone for asking them to repeat a sentence cuz i couldnt understand

    Pee September 17, 2023 2:46 am
    Figures you are cowering again. Thank you for exposing your ignorance and toxicity. My apologies I didn’t write the majority of my latest posts. Most were borrowed. So many native English speakers with Engl... Torakaze

    Also idk who tmsm but i assume its the person who defended jinx with their life. Im not gonna apologize because i simply do not care why would i apologize if i believe i was in the right?

    XieLianForever6969 September 17, 2023 4:17 am

    this is actually so crazy because i have both adressed the argument and your grammar, its not like im not doing that. im doing both because for one, people who do that usually nitpick on punctuation and spelling, NOT WHEN THEY DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOURE SAYING. i have gone on and on adressing every single one of your arguments, there is no reason to say that im only attacking your grammar and not actually giving you my argument, because I HAVE been giving you my argument and IM NOT ATTACKING YOU. what is so hard to understand?

    whats even more crazy to me is that the 3 of you talk as if youre some sort of saint and youve done nothing but share your opinion, but if someones opinion differs from yours, you use every single tactic to try to change their mind. you call all your goons over, there is no @ option on mangago so im just assuming you all message each other on an argument to group up on people? and then suddenly all of your personal lives and information are put into the argument. a rape counselor, a rape victim, a gay couple who apparently love aggressive sex???? and when i ask why one of you would say something so vulgar to me you say that your rapist said it to you??????? what the hell are you even saying? like do you want me to feel bad or something? because youre literally saying this for nothing, and your life experiences or occupation dont exclude you from facts.

    and youre acting as if im cowardly and that ive lost the argument, but if i really did lose, my point would have been disproven and i wouldnt have anything else to say in my argument, and you would have stopped responding, but no. the 3 of you are stilll actively responding in this comment section, and if you really did think you were right with no room for opposition, isnt it just childish to keep the argument going if you on your side think youre right? its really childish. like really. because if you were actually mature, you would have agreed to disagree, but you just think youre so right and that no one elses opinions should differ from yours.

    its really not even an argument anymore, because ive done nothing but sit here and actually debate with you, but all you want to do is insult me and justify yourself. even going so far as to scroll to the beginning of my reading lists or comment on my ethnicity????? its weak

    XieLianForever6969 September 17, 2023 4:18 am

    unblock me already, its cowardly to block me and still continue the conversation

    XieLianForever6969 September 17, 2023 4:32 am

    also, im assuming that the rose girl is going to call me a horrible person and put me on her list or whatever because i said this? every single conversation i read with the 3 of you in it, its just rose victimizing herself over and over again, and when someone calls out rape, its "no! its not rape, because i was raped!" it literally is rape. believe it or not, you're not the only one who was raped in the world, you don't get to change the definition of rape, and you don't care about rape victims either. EVERY SINGLE CONVERSATION you guys pull the same shit. "you guys are cyberbullying me and i was raped so it isn't rape!" its getting old. like really. so pathetic

    XieLianForever6969 September 17, 2023 4:34 am

    and ive said this before but ill say it again. if no one you argue with understands you, it isn't a problem of cowardliness, its a problem with you. please open your eyes to other peoples perspectives

    XieLianForever6969 September 17, 2023 4:53 am

    like at the beginning of the conversation i was actually trying to be careful when you said you were raped, like i was trying to be considerate. but you're not using that status to speak out as a rape victim, you are literally just using it to guilt trip people and win an argument.
    you are not giving other rape victims a status or voice at all, and even dismissing the feelings of rape victims. you arent doing anything good, and you are taking away the voice of rape victims, and excusing it by saying you were raped. this doesn't give you a pass or excuse.

    Tmsmyz September 17, 2023 5:20 am
    Figures you are cowering again. Thank you for exposing your ignorance and toxicity. My apologies I didn’t write the majority of my latest posts. Most were borrowed. So many native English speakers with Engl... Torakaze

    Agreed. There is no real conversation. If there was they would apologize when they knew they were dead wrong. They are being dishonest as they bash themselves. It is outlandish they talk about themselves as if it was us. The problem is they be haters who lost. They are being pos. Now they are a rape apologist with that delusional argument on Rose. Disgusting. Enough is enough.

    Pee September 17, 2023 5:32 am
    this is actually so crazy because i have both adressed the argument and your grammar, its not like im not doing that. im doing both because for one, people who do that usually nitpick on punctuation and spellin... XieLianForever6969

    Wow its crazy how it was much easier to read these long paragraphs rather then when they send long paragraphs cuz it actually makes full sense

    Tmsmyz September 17, 2023 5:37 am
    Did TM write any of that message? There is research out there saying everyone is bisexual. I forgot what it said people that say they are strictly straight or gay. There are studies that contradict those studie... Torakaze

    Nope. TM didn’t write any of it but neither did SM.
    There was a third party.
    So many people they can’t understand but it is our problem. Since we are not here to be abused or to argue I will keep my eyes closed to false accusations of a hostile deceitful rape apologist antagonist that was disproven. They were wrong. Everything they just said was wrong.

    Pee September 17, 2023 5:49 am
    Figures you are cowering again. Thank you for exposing your ignorance and toxicity. My apologies I didn’t write the majority of my latest posts. Most were borrowed. So many native English speakers with Engl... Torakaze

    (Replying to Tmsm message since they blocked me lol)

    But... We dont believe we are wrong so why would anyone apologize? people believe you are wrong but you wouldn't apologize because in your own eyes you are right. There is no winning with anyone here no matter how much u think you're right, noone will apologize because you cannot change someones point of view by arguing on a MANGA WEBSITE about rape and ive realized that.


    I was immature for even arguing with you people knowing and neither of us would win cuz we totally have different point of views. Even if i, and other people find you and the other people with the same view as you totally disgusting and disgraceful, the truth is... You won't change. And neither will we. Especially if its a stupid internet argument, i mean... Its crazy how stupid we all sound arguing on a manga website at our big ages


    Don't you think its time we all log tf off and get on with our lives cuz this argument or debate is going nowhere and tbh i think we are all pointless hypocrites. I think Jinx is disgusting but i am not going to let a tiny messed up manhwa take up so much of my time arguing with stans about it and im sorry if you are going to continue gathering together like the Avengers to waste hours arguing with people how this manhwa doesn't have rape in it and the sa and abuse in it is so entertaining and sexy to you. You have your opinion so keep it, log off, and enjoy your life instead of spending your time sat on your phone or computer doing rape research over proving your opinion factual.



    Also... I was not shaming anyone for their english, i just wanted them to repeat what they were saying cuz i couldnt quite understand it. Whether it was my fault or not i was not shaming anyone for their english and i do not give a fuck if ur gonna sob about it.


    Anyways i think we should all move on from this, we are all being immature. Go feed your kids or something


    (Also do not reply to this saying "thank you for exposing your toxic behavior" for the 50th time, if you will reply with something similar then you have missed the whole point of this message. We should agree to disagree and move on with our lives lmao.)

    XieLianForever6969 September 17, 2023 5:55 am
    (Replying to Tmsm message since they blocked me lol) But... We dont believe we are wrong so why would anyone apologize? people believe you are wrong but you wouldn't apologize because in your own eyes you are r... Pee

    so real

    i feel like most of the 10 pages of replies was just pointless back and forth and none of us will change, we should just agree to disagree and obviously i think I'm right, but there's no point in changing their minds and it just feels like I'm arguing with a wall atp

    Pee September 17, 2023 6:48 am
    so real i feel like most of the 10 pages of replies was just pointless back and forth and none of us will change, we should just agree to disagree and obviously i think I'm right, but there's no point in changi... XieLianForever6969

    Im in my mature era!!! But lowkey i should stop arguing with people with opinions that i see are dumb cuz i know like 99% of the time their opinion is prolly never gonna change unfortunately

    Tmsmyz September 17, 2023 9:18 am
    (Replying to Tmsm message since they blocked me lol) But... We dont believe we are wrong so why would anyone apologize? people believe you are wrong but you wouldn't apologize because in your own eyes you are r... Pee

    In the last comments Tora and I both decided to leave. “Enough is enough” Thanks Xie on confirming you will not change as we determined. Sad and sadistic. But given the false narratives and misinformation about Rose in your comments I was not surprised. Please leave me alone. No sane person will tell someone to go kill themselves then try to justify especially on nothing. Thank you for officially taking the lost. (This isn’t about pov vs pov or opinions as Pee is trying to make it out to be).

    The main reason I am responding is to correct all the misinformation that Pee falsely spread.

    I acknowledge Pee join this conversation late and thought it was a pov vs pov. They were mistaken. This situation is about Xie being an ass. I made a harmless comment and she responded with aggressive comments basically telling me to kill myself. It is all over her false delusions. It is crazy. She keeps lying and trying to justifying it. No sane person would. If Xie was honest she would’ve told Pee that apologize part in Tora’s comment was aim at her and not at Pee or both. I don’t know why Pee took that for them. If Pee thinks it is right for someone to tell someone else to go kill themselves, that is insane.
    Haters believe we are wrong. So I have to apologize to them? I won’t because I believe I am right? What!? That don’t makes sense. So if I think pee is wrong for joining the conversation late he has to apologize to me?? Just because I think he is wrong. Bullshit. I think pee is wrong in believing misinformation about us and lying in the message I am responding to. But I don’t know if the lies are from misinformation or being a hater.
    We are not arguing. We have not been arguing. We seek civil and peaceful conversations. We are not forcing a pov or trying to convince people to change theirs. Both actions are wrong. Stop and desist.
    “u think you're right”. It isn’t me trying to be right. I am just quoting facts and the truth. I can’t help it if you have a problem with the facts and the truth. I have not argued about rape. I have said rape is a pov. You can see as rape. I allow that pov. There is no pov vs pov with me.
    Pee does not know our pov. “Even if i, and other people find you and the other people with the same view as you totally disgusting and disgraceful, the truth is... You won't change.”
    This is totally disgusting and disappointing. No one should be forcing someone to change. And Pee believes in a lie. Since he focused on rape and he is focused on “it is rape” vs “it is not”. He believes the illogical notion of “it is not rape.” Someone has spread misinformation about us. Somehow in an illogical view people takes that as defending rape or excusing it. It is like saying there is no incest and say we are defending or excusing incest in jinx because you believe incest is there. Illogical. We are saying it is 100% SA and abusive, not rape. Jk is a sexual abuser, not a rapist. We are not defending rape or JK. There is nothing disgusting or disgraceful about it. I don’t know what Pee thinks is my view pov.
    “Especially if its a stupid internet argument, i mean... Its crazy how stupid we all sound arguing on a manga website at our big ages “. To be that simple. I rathe be having conversations. But no Pee has it simpler.
    P1: Hey P2! there is this loser on jinx defending Jk and rape.
    P2: TMSM. You are a fucking loser! This is rape! Sick fuck defending rape. Go seek professional help or go kill your self.
    TMSM: I am not defending rape. You are defending your rape pov. You are being toxic. Start over a month ago, happens a lot.

    So according to Pee, I have to apologize for being wrong. I have to apologize to them that has caused my profile to be a jinx only profile. I don’t live in opposite world. I am not arguing over a stupid pov vs pov. I fighting hate and I am fighting “ see rape or being a sicko rape apologist who need professional help.” It comes off pov vs pov. But all we are doing is calling out hate. We like to talk and share views. We like to hear opinions. If you think Dan is an alien that is on you. If you think there is no SA, I would share things but I would not force anything. I, unlike pee, would treat that person with respect and not degrade them or be toxic towards them. 


“Don't you think it’s time we all log tf off and get on with our lives” that is controlling. I will do what I want. I am not a hypocrite. There is no evidence.
    “arguing with stans”. Hahaha. Arguing with Stans. Pee is not arguing and if pee was they are not arguing with Stan’s.
    TM- I think the story is dull. I don’t find Jk hot.
    SM - has not read the story. Not his type.
    Tora - only opinion is the story is toxic. He is straight.
    Rose - dislikes the story / dislikes Jk. She dropped the story too. But is willing to give it a second chance due to the bullying.

    Stan?? Who?

    Mi Amore - dropped this due to cyber bullying. But I don’t think she loved it.

    “im sorry if you are going to continue gathering together like the Avengers to waste hours arguing with people how this manhwa doesn't have rape in it and the sa and abuse in it is so entertaining and sexy to you.” BULLSHIT you are completely clueless. How many times do I have to say the story is dull. We are not arguing. We are talking and defending. Pee can’t get facts straight.

    .”You have your opinion so keep it, log off, and enjoy your life instead of spending your time sat on your phone or computer doing rape research over proving your opinion factual. “ it is not an opinion. That is bullshit too. Pee is a bullshitter. It is all about making the truth, my opinion. That is hilarious but sick. No sane person would do that. That is more controlling comments. It seems pee needs their own advice because they can’t get facts straight. We have not been immature. We wasted time on deceitful haters. 

“. Go feed your kids or something”. More controlling comments. I am not leaving. I will do what I want. Grow the hell up. 

 "thank you for exposing your toxic behavior" is a call out of your behavior. It is for you to stop the behavior and have a conversation. If you don’t stop or get worse you are a hater. You are being toxic and abusive. You have been controlling. I can reply with that or something similar and I have understood their message more than they think. If pee payed attention “enough is enough” Tora exited.
    I agreed and exited. We moved on. There was no point correcting to the truth with Xie comments on Rose all that was fabricated. I do mention it was a lie. It was fucking disgusting to read. I want to correct the misinformation that has been circulating about us and clear up some of Pee’s confusion. He is standing with a “jump off a bridge” and other one. I guess I should apologize. I am sorry Pee believe misinformation. I am sorry Xie can’t be a good person and apologize for her behavior. I am sorry she had the lie about Rose. I am sorry that I am attacking daily over over a month and it pisses off the haters I defend myself on my only jinx account. I am sorry I am victim to haters who spread misinformation and want me to wrong by telling facts and the truth. I am sorry I have not shared many of my opinions and they are taken the facts and the truth to be my opinions that they have to be oh so threatened by. I am sorry I have been told to go kill myself by haters that can’t handle other POVs then their own like 5 times by 3 different haters in less than month over spread lies. I am not the one who should be apologizing. If she doesn’t want to admit the fact she was wrong and apologize, fine but she is being a horrible disgrace of a human, look at what she did to Rose. Unhinged. I have not hurt or mistreated anyone. Why not next time understand the situation and someone’s pov before going unhinged. This has never been a pov vs pov for us. We don’t force or convince anyone. We are not stans. Get a clue. Go to page 7 my first comment. That is where I prove her wrong. That is where she should had apologized. Or when Rosa did on page 4. Xie was wrong. She knew since page 3 with Tora or with me on page 3 and this has been a waste of time. Haters don’t change. Since she knew many rape survivors and had a triggered reaction we gave her many chances but she just bashed us. She thinks she is right harming innocent people in false views that makes her a monster. From her replies and comments she is just fucked in the head. I want nothing to do with her now. What she did is not acceptable. Pee what did is not acceptable. Don’t believe everything you hear, learn the facts before making judgments. Stop being toxic. Now show me where this has be pov vs pov. This has just been a bash people with different views section and it is gross to justify it a pov vs pov “argument”. And not only that you changed their views and opinions to make them worse. That is abusive and disgusting. This is toxic behaviors.

    Pee September 18, 2023 2:19 am

    Replying to tsms




    i am not reading allat cuz since u wanna write a whole ass essay about me being abusive controlling and manipulative, then you still missed THE WHOLE POINT. i am not forcing you or controlling you. Honestly, im baffled. if you wanted to leave and stop this conversation then you wouldve done so. im not trying to control you or force anything on you im saying we should agree to disagree. i never said you should apologize, why would you apologize if you think you are the victim?? if you think you are the victim you shouldnt apologize because you havent done anything. Im not forcing you to leave but i think people continuing to argue or debate over the internet on one person sending a threat that is probably empty and meaningless is going to change anything. that person is not going to change, and neither are you. My descriptions mean nothing, you are looking too far into my words. The point is i think you should all stop, and log off, or at least just stop this meaningless and pointless debate or conversation with eachother. Im not being controlling or abusive, im telling you all to stop. You said enough is enough and im agreeing with you. So noone reply if you also want to end this. If i said something else you see as abusive or controlling in this message, forgive me. I just wanna stop getting notifications and read manga on this website in peace. I truely didnt think telling everyone to agree to disagree would be abusive and controlling and toxic...my bad. But anyways...not exactly sure what ur gonna get out of arguing with someone sending a threat, yeah, its bad but its empty. You arguing over it isnt going to make the person change its going to make them angry and probably do it again. We are all being immature by arguing on the internet, me included. If you want this to stop then dont reply and truly leave this time...(im not controlling or forcing, i think its most mature to just leave this alone now..)

    XieLianForever6969 September 18, 2023 3:10 am

    omg sorry for replying again but i was actually jumpscared because i thought this convo was over i didn't expect to see a 2000 word essay lmfao

    BelovedRose September 18, 2023 4:01 am
    In the last comments Tora and I both decided to leave. “Enough is enough” Thanks Xie on confirming you will not change as we determined. Sad and sadistic. But given the false narratives and misinformation ... Tmsmyz

    Chef’s Kiss.

    Your message was in general = FOR EVERYONE to see the truth. Pee doesn’t have to read it but no reason to be a complete and total ass. Pee missed the truth and THE WHOLE POINT of your message. Pee wanted this to stop he could had not responded with LIES after you two left. Also, why respond at all? The comment was not meant to him? He could have not made this a pov vs pov situation or that he was the making it agree to disagree. That is manipulation. To agree to disagree to what?

    I think Pee needs to read back his comments. “ people believe you are wrong but you wouldn't apologize because in your own eyes you are right.”

    “ i think people continuing to argue or debate over the internet on one person sending a threat that is probably empty and meaningless is going to change anything.”
    It has been meaningless but someone’s English isn’t a threat. You were clear NOT an argument or debate. Pee and XIE bashing us as we defended/trying to talk with call out. I had mocked a cyber bully.
    Why are they wanting you to change?

    “. The point is i think you should all stop,” They already did. Control. Control
    land log off, “. Control. Control.

    “or at least just stop this meaningless and pointless debate or conversation with eachother.” It is sad they don’t understand. It was a waste of time but at least you gave Xie many opportunities and chances to be a good person. What is wrong with TMSM thinking Xie was better than that. KYS= empty = never.
    “, im telling you all to stop” control

    “So noone reply if you also want to end this. “ control
    Funny you just want to be in peace but you are attacked by the misinformation that has been spread that you just corrected.
    “. I truely didnt think telling everyone to agree to disagree would be abusive and controlling and toxic...my bad”. You did not say that. That is manipulation.

    “not exactly sure what ur gonna get out of arguing with someone sending a threat, yeah, its bad but its empty. “. Yuck.

    “You arguing over it isnt going to make the person change its going to make them angry and probably do it again. “. They didn’t read. Why respond? Oh to control.

    Only Pee and Xie are being immature we are not arguing
    “. If you want this to stop then dont reply and truly leave this time..”. Control control. Manipulation wants the last word. I will post lines on how to be better person if more lies are told, or this is a pov vs pov, or stop “arguing” when Tora and you left the bashing party. We thought Xie was better than that. Oh I am not talking to either one since they can only lie and be total asses.

    XieLianForever6969 September 18, 2023 6:31 am
    Chef’s Kiss. Your message was in general = FOR EVERYONE to see the truth. Pee doesn’t have to read it but no reason to be a complete and total ass. Pee missed the truth and THE WHOLE POINT of your message.... BelovedRose

    oh my god shut the hell up already