So the author also failed to portray the guide looking devastated after the guiding sessions. Got it.
There is no need to make rape "graphic". Graphic sexual scenes, to the point they show extremely close details, are made for the sake of porn not for the sake of just showing a scene to move on the plot. Presenting rape as porn is highly problematic. It doesn't make it okay nor does the fact that the ml looks miserable after it change its cause, which is once again porn. Even ml's devastation is used as part of it, for people that get off rape as presented in porn. The fact that the character even ends up with his assaulters further proves my point. Yeah, this is meant to be a fucked up story sure, but let's not lie to ourselves and act as if the porn scenes weren't made for the sake of the sexual enjoyment of the readers. There's a difference between plain graphic sexual scenes and graphic porn scenes. This is graphic porn and porn only has one use. It's true that people who enjoy this type of content are not evil or immoral (that would be too far fetched) but it's also true that consuming this type of content in daily basis can desensitize you over this specific matter. I'm not saying that it'll make think rape is okay, but it will make you less emotionally understanding of people that become victims of this sexual crime. The human brain is "connecting the pieces" depending on the information it receives daily, and this happens without you even realizing.
YES!!!! THANK U! This is exactly what i meant
this is genuinely so well written and intellectual and hits on every point. this is meant to be r*pe porn and the author sees no issue with it, as do many BL authors. more people need to speak out like this.
Thank you
This is so true, beautifully written, & yes this normalisation of rape & victim ending up with the rapist have been going on for soo long, that it has become deep rooted, & the fact that there's hardly any yaoi in which the top serves the jail time for abusing victim, & they don't even get to face the consequences, all they do is get lovey dovey in the end as if rape never really happened
Exactly normalisation of rape & victim ending up with the rapist have been going on for soo long, that it has become deep rooted, & the fact that there's hardly any yaoi in which the top serves the jail time for abusing victim, & they don't even get to face the consequences, all they do is get lovey dovey in the end as if rape never really happened
YUPPP!!!
From what I’ve read so far, this webtoon actually did it better than many titles to show the main character not enjoying his treatment. Especially after the harsh situation where he has to service the 4 espers. It is still still tagged as smut, yes, but it is not the more enjoyable kind. It is not as black and white as many others where the MC just accepts he was raped and loving it not long after. Yugeon also doesn’t forget his objective of why he’s doing this in the 1st place; for his brother.
I’ve seen many MCs forgetting why they were raped in the 1st place, and just accepting their situation. That’s where the normalization in rape happens. This title walk that balance between ‘bl smut’ and ‘sexual assault’. BL does have a problem with the normalization of rape, indeed, I hope in the future BL authors do show more that rape is a serious problem. So in a way, this webtoon is trying to be more nuanced in that department; more that I’ve could say for many titles.
I don’t enjoy what happened to Yugeon, and I don’t see this as enjoyable ‘smut’ as well. Realistically, Yugeon won’t end up with any of the 4 espers, unless the tone of the BL changes slowly. I see Shinje starting to care about Yugeon, so it is interesting to see how the dynamic and power play will play out. Rape victims usually is not in any position of power to deny any advances, and in BL, it is apparent as well. Though, I see Yugeon will be able to stand above this, and he is no softie as well, unlike many MCs in ‘romantic sexual assault’ BLs. I also stick around mostly for the plot as well, since the plot is what interest me the most. The art do helps in that sense, albeit kinda rough around the edges. Hope you will continue sticking around as well since this seems to have potential. Let’s see if the situation will get better for our MC. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
hes going to end up with the ML. duh. and thats part of the issue. also the smut was def made to be enjoyable for some people.
Yeah, it is still made enjoyable for some, but not straight up enjoyable. It has that very much dubious consent vibe, and it makes many people not enjoying it. Well, the thing is is, this kind of BL, the MC is always going to end up with the ML. At least, it’s not straight up immediately together. That’s why I’m saying it’s as least not as bad as the others. Still problematic, but not the worst.
The consent is not "dubious". It's clearly non consensual.
I said the very dubious consent vibe; the vibe itself. Of course, the main character, Yugeon, never agrees to this in the first place. But, for his job, he has to, reluctantly. Well, it is problematic cause in the end it’s still not consensual.
I see what you mean, but yeah, even the vibe is NOT dubious because it was coercion, blackmail. He didn't really "agree", he was coerced/blackmailed to. So i stick to my words, nothing about it is dubious, be it the vibes or the actions themselves.
Unless of course in fiction the word dubious is also used in coercion? Not sure. I think the blackmail makes it pass the line of "dubious".
I’m saying very dubious consent vibe, cause a few times, I feel like it was portrayed that way in the webtoon, but I know its not. It’s just the art deceiving me. OTL
Yeah, art excuse aside, it’s not and has never been consensual, I agree. I always see Yugeon being exhausted and it’s depressing.
Haha, sometimes I think the authors in BL do try to make the coercion, ‘dubious’, in a sense. But the more aware readers will notice anyway. Profundis never hide the ugliness at least.
I see
dubious consent is often a phrased used to avoid the word rape so people dont feel bad enjoying it which is gross.
I mean, that makes sense, you either give consent or you don't. And if you just accept a situation through coercion, that's technically not real consent either. I guess the term "coercive rape" exists for a reason.
im sticking around for the plot, but it feels really gross reading r*pe that is meant to be smut. its framed in a way that is supposed to be enjoyable to the reader but its really just brutal r*pe. i dont understand how BL authors can keep making this stuff, like do they not feel disgusted? cuz all i feel in those smut scenes is now awful and traumatized that poor guy must be, being assaulted by four men. could have easily writted a character who liked sex, or left out the graphic depictions of r*pe.