Oh come on Doll, I understand where you'r coming from but stop being delusional, u weren't...

NightmarishLand October 19, 2023 2:36 pm

Oh come on Doll, I understand where you'r coming from but stop being delusional, u weren't any better... Those kids have family too. Oh yea, ntm that your "father" is a fucking creep and a perv.

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    ShiningSapphire October 19, 2023 2:55 pm

    I hope they can somehow calm her down and get her on their side. She really needs to sit down. Ciel literally has PTSD and wasn't in his right mind and the other didn't know eachother to know that they actually weren't enemies is such a big misunderstanding

    ShiningSapphire October 19, 2023 2:57 pm
    I hope they can somehow calm her down and get her on their side. She really needs to sit down. Ciel literally has PTSD and wasn't in his right mind and the other didn't know eachother to know that they actually... ShiningSapphire

    Like it's still no excuse, but she only has revenge in her mind now that she's lost everything. She most likely didn't even know about Tom's true self btw, because if I remember right Joker said he was the only one who knew, and the others never knew what he was doing when he got out to visit that Tom scum

    Claudia Silva October 19, 2023 3:42 pm
    I hope they can somehow calm her down and get her on their side. She really needs to sit down. Ciel literally has PTSD and wasn't in his right mind and the other didn't know eachother to know that they actually... ShiningSapphire

    It wasn't a misunderstanding lol Smile wasn't a enemy to her until he killed her family.

    Claudia Silva October 19, 2023 3:43 pm
    Like it's still no excuse, but she only has revenge in her mind now that she's lost everything. She most likely didn't even know about Tom's true self btw, because if I remember right Joker said he was the only... ShiningSapphire

    They all knew what kind of man Kelvin was but they loved him despite all that.

    ShiningSapphire October 19, 2023 3:49 pm
    They all knew what kind of man Kelvin was but they loved him despite all that. Claudia Silva

    Indoctrination and gaslightinnnng

    Claudia Silva October 19, 2023 3:50 pm
    Indoctrination and gaslightinnnng ShiningSapphire

    What?

    Claudia Silva October 19, 2023 3:56 pm
    Indoctrination and gaslightinnnng ShiningSapphire

    No, they genuinely did love him because he took them off the streets and gave them a roof over their heads and food and water.

    ShiningSapphire October 19, 2023 4:00 pm
    No, they genuinely did love him because he took them off the streets and gave them a roof over their heads and food and water. Claudia Silva

    Yes that's why they thought and kinda got gaslighted into thinking he wasn't doing wrong it's coping and denial (And of course what they did was still wrong)

    ShiningSapphire October 19, 2023 4:02 pm
    Yes that's why they thought and kinda got gaslighted into thinking he wasn't doing wrong it's coping and denial (And of course what they did was still wrong) ShiningSapphire

    +she has actually no right to be mad at ciel but can't make that judgement with her having eternal brain/psyche damage

    NightmarishLand October 19, 2023 8:53 pm
    Indoctrination and gaslightinnnng ShiningSapphire

    It was only Beast who saw how wrong everything was cuz she saw how all the things their "father" made them do, hurts him

    Claudia Silva October 20, 2023 6:53 am
    It was only Beast who saw how wrong everything was cuz she saw how all the things their "father" made them do, hurts him NightmarishLand

    No, they all understood what they were doing was wrong but continued to do it without questions, didn't you hear what Joker said?

    NightmarishLand October 20, 2023 7:35 am
    No, they all understood what they were doing was wrong but continued to do it without questions, didn't you hear what Joker said? Claudia Silva

    Didn't she wanted to stop? She begged joker to leave their "father" cuz all the child kidnappings are taking a toll on Joker... That they can managed by themselves since they had the circus.... Joker didn't listen cuz he felt way too indebted to their "Father"...

    ShiningSapphire October 20, 2023 9:32 am
    Didn't she wanted to stop? She begged joker to leave their "father" cuz all the child kidnappings are taking a toll on Joker... That they can managed by themselves since they had the circus.... Joker didn't lis... NightmarishLand

    I remember that too

    Claudia Silva October 20, 2023 5:40 pm
    Didn't she wanted to stop? She begged joker to leave their "father" cuz all the child kidnappings are taking a toll on Joker... That they can managed by themselves since they had the circus.... Joker didn't lis... NightmarishLand

    She only wanted to stop because Joker was in pain and just because she wanted to stop doesn't make her less of a murderer and a kidnapper. She wanted to stop but she still did it.

    Claudia Silva October 20, 2023 5:51 pm
    Didn't she wanted to stop? She begged joker to leave their "father" cuz all the child kidnappings are taking a toll on Joker... That they can managed by themselves since they had the circus.... Joker didn't lis... NightmarishLand

    They all didn't like doing it not just Beast. Jumbo said he hates doing this after "killing" Finny, Doll was scared and was hesitating from killing the police officer, and when Joker announced that they need more sweets they all looked upset. Joker at the end said " we knew what we were doing was wrong but we couldn't stop". They couldn't stop because they were afraid of their father and they felt indebted to him.

    Claudia Silva October 20, 2023 5:53 pm
    Didn't she wanted to stop? She begged joker to leave their "father" cuz all the child kidnappings are taking a toll on Joker... That they can managed by themselves since they had the circus.... Joker didn't lis... NightmarishLand

    They all wanted to stop and live happy lives together. Did you think Beast would ditch their little family?