your assumptions are insane. my argument has never been about rape in fiction in general, that was very clear.
yeah no, unless u lived in Japan circa the last 100 years (and I mean 100, not like the last 30-40), you don't get to just claim thats the origin of "yaoi". Yes I am pulling THE CITE YOUR SOURCES. Are u not aware there is actual peer reviewed studies the BL and its history??? haha what I am saying, of course you aren't otherwise you wouldn't be making such a dumbass claim.
But sure, if you want to make a claim as idiotic as "yaoi was made to stimulate the post WW2 economy" then you NEED TO BACK IT UP WITH A SOURCE. And not some twt 14 yr old on a power trip. An actual source.
But my apologies. not everybody's brain has fully developed so maybe that is beyond you :)
If I am being nice, I think you are maybe confusing and conflating the history of BL with the history and definition of Fujoshi. Which was a deragotory term coined by homophobic asshats to insult woman for enjoying queer lit, saying they were corrupt/tainted and unmarriable because of it, but later reclaimed by Japanese women (and folk, because we now have fujin ect).
And for the love of god, do you even know the authors gender??? Or are u just assuming they're a woman?
And let me get this straight. U find noncon in fiction to be disgusting, but specifically because u believe noncon in BL is only written by women, for women.
begging you to read actual geicomi.
but nope. u complain about BL saying its written by women for women and u seem to hate it, you wouldn't last reading actual geicomi.
this is such a ridiculous response considering all we got was a noncon tag added and no one even seems to know for certain what the context is. have u considered going outside and touching grass? I certainly need to after bothering to engage with u for this long, I suggest you do the same, and stop reading twitter threads by brain dead teenagers on twitter who think queer is a slur <3
i’ll be dropping this in advance after reading the spoilers. this is just another bullshit story where the ml violently RAPES the mc multiple times and they fall in love anyway. the ml is absolutely evil but somehow this dogshit gets a happy ending it’s so unbelievably stupid. when are we going to accept that this is terrible writing. dogshit violent RAPE story made for straight women to get off to. fuck this bullshit
that is literally ur comment. first u say never said all women, then u say just women that get off to noncon, and now ur saying its not about rape at all.
go to bed.
oh my god you are so fucking illiterate and constantly moving goal posts. any information i have on the origin of yaoi i did not get from twitter that is such a weird assumption. but my bad if the source isn’t 100% accurate maybe i didnt look back far enough. but if you know anything about yaoi and bl, especially in recent times, you should know how common it is for this shit to be made by women and for women. and you keep putting the word ‘only’ in my mouth when i NEVER said it. just admit you’re arguing in bad faith and dont care what i have to say. and i never said noncon content shouldnt be made, yeah it’s disgusting but that’s also the nature of noncon and i am allowed to think so. i just find it especially disgusting when women use gay men as their subjects as if we’re a fetish or just made for sex. which is why i dont care when gay men make noncon of other gay men, that is their right. im so sick of trying to explain to you what i’m saying and you continue to refuse to understand. just fuck off already.
i never said it wasnt about rape in general you illiterate fuck. i said it wasnt ONLY about rape in ALL contexts. LEARN TO READ. i have ONLY ever been talking about noncon yaoi and bl that is made by women for women. you’re getting butt hurt over nothing. it’s not my fault you cant fucking read or understand context clues.
i’d love to see your sources on the history of yaoi bc when i was looking into it i didnt find anything older than the 70s mentioning yaoi.
Why is everyone arguing
A story having rape doesn’t mean shit writing there’s multiple components of writing.
I agree with you but I just wanna say I feel like rape is a topic that’s generalized now in these days… I don’t think some only wants to target gay ppl.
of course it is. but that doesn’t change what i said.
i’ll be dropping this in advance after reading the spoilers. this is just another bullshit story where the ml violently rapes the mc multiple times and they fall in love anyway. the ml is absolutely evil but somehow this dogshit gets a happy ending it’s so unbelievably stupid. when are we going to accept that this is terrible writing. dogshit violent rape story made for straight women to get off to. fuck this bullshit.