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I'm so sick of being used as a meat shield or scapegoat any time someone is like "well think of the victims!!"

Well here you go, I'm putting myself out there as a victim of nearly 20 years of sexual abuse and trauma telling you to stfu.

Now fucking STOP.

I get that you’re upset and it hurts to see you as so but I’m sure the Author knew what they were going to get themselves into especially with people now of days lacking compassion and empathy. You are just wearing yourself out trying to get people to understand. Curiosity kills the cat. People lack the comprehension and don’t have the experience like we have to see that it was obvious no a romanticized moment at all but a very detail scene of what SA looks and feels like for a child who doesn’t know what is going on at the time. It also shows what they may be into if they thought that that was romantic in anyway. It is a controversial topic that actually warrants discomfort many don’t want to have. So of course instead of discussing the real life situation behind the art that causes the discomfort, they will just blame the author without understanding or wanting to figure anything out since their main concern is how they feel. We as compassionate human being and victims of similar situations can only hope that the author is well and let the author know how much their work has affected us for the better and let others know that they are heard and we see each other even if no one else does.

I get it, I really do. I was a bit heated in the moment after seeing so many people accuse the artist and those who have chosen to continue reading without condemning said artist of heinous shit.

It's just tiring that every time I see a scene that depicts how deep and dark childhood trauma can affect someone I see droves of willfully ignorant shits being like "you have to be mentally fucked--" like, yes. YES I AM MENTALLY FUCKED DUE TO MY TRAUMA LOL it's why I find solace in dark fiction and horror and the occult and anything inbetween. It disturbs me and the gut wrenching is painful, but there's something beautifully cathartic knowing that I can still feel anything at all despite what I went through.

Sorry if I don't "cope" in ways that are sanitized for them or that I'm not the epitome of an UwU victim they can conveniently use to potentially harm someone else.

I'm just tired. And I was doing so good recently with NOT engaging in pointless discourse.

It's the graphic depiction of a child and an adult is what is ticking people off. I think that is a valid reaction.

So, if I were to recount all the horrid things I went through or use them as a reference point to create something-- something I actually experienced and have had to live with for 25 years-- I should be labeled a pedophile or a freak or a disgusting human being?? I should be told to kill myself or be checked into a mental institution 'cause I wanted to take the things that hurt me and have plagued me every waking moment of my life and create something that depicts the raw, graphic nature of child abuse instead of just glossing over it like "yeah, child rape bad" and moving on with the plot??

The chapter wasn't meant to be pleasant. It was meant to show how this man was literally sexually abused and groomed by his blood father since he was a child probably younger than my 5 yo self that went through that shit and how it broke him. He didn't get to be UwU-ified like ya'll want ALL victims to be. He got fucked up. His actions are unforgivable, but the cold hard truth is that the chances of children of abuse committing crimes or resorting to debauchery or becoming garbage human beings happens more often than we are led to believe. Often times they kill their abusers or end up harming someone else in retaliation 'cause they want to blame someone, anyone, for the pain they feel.

What we saw him go through with his father is what sexual grooming actually is. His father was a pedophile and ruined his only child for life by sexually abusing him then abandoning him when he grew too old.

Ya'll always cry when rape or other abuse is brushed over or used as a convenient plot device to get the MLs together. Now that ya'll get a more realistic depiction of two individuals struggling with trauma and crimes against humanity ya'll wanna cry that it's "too much" and whoever reads this is a freak or mentally fucked. This chapter was SUPPOSED to make you feel disgusted. It was supposed to evoke discomfort. I felt very uncomfortable reading it 'cause it was all too close to what happened to me, and that only makes me believe that the chances this artist went through something similar are high. But I'm supposed to just sit back and read all these hateful comments and be like "welp, they were uncomfy reading this chapter so I guess I should forgive them for the indirect false allegations and insults targeted at people who are wanting to read this story, the potential CSA survivors who find catharsis in works like this and the artist who wrote it."

You are fucking putrid. Rancid. Disgusting.

I literally didn't say all of that. You seem to be wanting to insert words into my mouth. I get that these are very real things that come with their own set of implications but that depiction was extremely graphic and unnecessary. That is the topic at hand. I think you need to calm down. I understand the various implications that all forms of child abuse has on individuals, that is why I enjoyed the story up until the depictions. You said that the panels were supposed to be uncomfortable and disgusting to provoke discomfort. That to me is a piss poor attempt to justify it. I shouldn't have to break down and explain why illustrating a child and an adult in an intimate manner is wrong, regardless of intents and purposes. You seem to have directed some of your preconceived anger towards me, I assume this because you randomly started insulting me. I find that completely unreasonable, do better.

Illustrated pornographic imagery of a child is unacceptable no matter what, end off.

you are making up scenarios in your brain to justify a questionable take. this is not the hill to die on. ur certainly lacking in eq for this discussion as well. the argument of it's just fiction goes out the window when you just made up a whole backstory for the author and their reasons in writing something so controversial. maybe stick to what you preach idk. a piece of fiction has really invoked a lot of reaction to defend it and even reveal a backstory for yourself...

the tags aside, many just didn't expect to read CP.

People are ignorant and lack compassion. They don’t really care to understand things as such until it happens to someone close or involves them and even then depending on how they were raised and lived will depend on if they could care or not. People judge that’s all we know how to do, it human nature. I’m glad you have a coping mechanism that helps you. Don’t let people take it away from you and don’t let the rage consume you. You are felt and you are heard and even if no one else does I see you. Please get the rest you deserve.

exactly a (bad) coping mechanism and you are being an enabler. this story obviously triggered them going by their frequent rants. Yet it's still cathartic art. u and others trying to turn this comment section into a them v. us, safe space where only those with experiences identify and see the authors true intentions is gross. and if u wanted to support more works like this, this site surely wouldn't do much.

Idk who the them is you are saying the STORY is triggering but if you are talking about my friend with whom I was speaking with then you are indeed incorrect. The Comments about the Author is triggering them cause they say the author is romanticizing SA which there was no romanticization of the SA at all. But I guess the same people I see commenting how romantic and cute a couples from other stories that have SA in it wouldn’t get it. I’m actually more than open to making a group for SA victims who have a more comfortable but darker coping mechanism. You see in black and white, I see in gray and that’s fine. I can totally understand why you would be uncomfortable with such a graphically accurate scene the only problem I have is the criticism of the Author when we know nothing of them.

I was referring to the op, who you directly messaged. It's being seen as a profitization off a sensitive subject. Many are calling it depictions of CP. The point of the act being deemed bad is not the point. What is there to defend when even you don't know the authors intention. And I see in black and white? ok. Agree to disagree...

A. I stated what I did 'cause I was tired of seeing people accuse the artist and those of us reading of heinous shit without knowing us. I used a common reason for why someone writes dark fiction and that's it.
B. Yeah, I'm ranting a whole fuck ton 'cause I'm sick and tired of people bitching, moaning, groaning, belittling, humiliating and abusing victims for their narratives. Dark fiction and other "less savory" coping mechanisms are valid. I've been through therapy for my trauma since I was in middle school. I am 30 years old now and think I know wtf I am talking about.
C. Quit calling cartoon porn "CP". As a matter of fact, stop using the term CP in general seeing as the word "porn" implies consent. The official term you are looking for is CSEM/CSAM and doesn't include cartoon characters.

Hope this helps.

They won't understand. I stepped away and even muted this thread 'cause I'm just tired.

I see this shit enough as is on twitter and I'm exhausted from trying to explain something that has been medically proven for decades now by professionals and their studies.

Thanks for sticking up for me, tho. I appreciate people who are willing to understand and show compassion to those of us who are just a lil messed up.

I'm not saying people need to suck it up and continue reading something that is clearly upsetting them. In fact I want the opposite. I want them to leave this alone and go find something that they'll actually enjoy-- and without leaving heinous comments behind.

If I could mute your entire existence so I never had to see one of your braindead takes again on this godforsaken site I would do it in a heartbeat ♡♡♡

So sorry