Fucking versatile tease

because thats NOT THE POINT. the point of all of this was that vast majority of gay men have at least tried both ways, and most are some degree of switch, yet vast majority of BLs have strict roles. so no, its not realistic as a whole. idk what kind of projection bullshit ur sniffing but get over it and learn some reading comprehension

and btw if u comment at me again about stuff that is totally tangential and dumb im blocking u. the entire point is that having the vast majority of BL have strict roles is BECAUSE OF HETERONORMATIVITY AND GENDER ROLES. its not based on the minority of irl gay men who are strictly tops or bottoms. USE UR BRAIN????

Nobody is crying but you. You can't even refute, because again just like with a lot of what you spew, it was an assumption.

Also, you are generalizing period. You can talk all you want, but in the end that's exactly what you did. Once again YOU don't know the reason why someone doesn't want to switch and just want to top or bottom. YOU don't know even a fraction of gay men to make such a generalization. If a guy wants to just bottom, then that's his right and vice versa.

Yep. As I've said, some people in this comment section are so "progressive" that they are being regressive. It's weird.

Yeah ;-; they need to chill. I’m not even against switch but generalizing real people who don’t want to try to switch pisses me off. You shouldn’t need a reason, you should never be forced to do something you don’t want to.

Yesss, they really do need to chill. Generalizing real people and saying ignorant stuff is not the right way to go about things. In the end people can do what they want. If they want to try out or be vers? Cool. If they don't? That's cool also.

It's the same thing in fiction for me. If the couple is verse? Cool. If not? That's cool too. I just like a good story, so I don't care what position(s) the couple prefer (if there's sex).

Then 90% of manhnwas are red flags. What are we gonna read?

Personally I don't care . As long as both parties enjoy. But if one party shows resistance , or asks for a switch. Then that is whole another matter.
Real life doesn't work like this. People get what they side they want.
Most of This is a women drawn work specially catered to please women audience.
Nothing to be taken seriously. Just enjoy your dopamine.

With my bottom line being both sides enjoy pleasure.
Atleast this thing is better than Jinx , where poor dude is getting sexually abused on daily quota basis. Dude never got a chance to ever top , atleast Seth here adopted very soft consent full approach.
peace.

we all know that the BL genre has serious issues on multiple levels, this isnt new info

we're allowed to generalize if its recognizing a pattern. its called sociology. in no way is it supposed to apply to every single individual, which is painfully obvious. and also, its not my fault if you cant see the deeper issues in this genre, because BL has serious issues that need to be called out, and the strict heteronormative roles is one of them. this is about the larger picture so dont even engage in the conversation if you cant think critically

i was calling out a pattern, which is called sociology. no one said it applies to every individual, its a pattern. i was talking about the true reason why most BLs have strict roles and its heteronormativity, yet yall just wanna pick holes in irrelevant shit. dont even engage in the conversation.

this has got to be the most braindead conversation ive ever had. this is about the AUTHORS OF BL, most of whom are STRAIGHT WOMEN with heteronormative ideals. this is NOT about real fucking gay men, though i did mention them because most are some level of switch which i keep fucking saying. im gonna say it AGAINL: stop responding if youre not going to have a basic level of critical thinking and just distract from my point. oh my god you cant be this braindead youve gotta be like 14

also, this is sort of besides the point, but as ive already said, its pretty common for strict tops to have internalized misiogyny and homophobia. NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE, but its a PATTERN. but also, the true red flag that this original comment is referencing is about the heteronormativity of the STRAIGHT FEMALE AUTHORS.

i mean people are allowed to criticize 1) switch bait and 2) the overwhelming heteronormativity in BL as a whole

How is that hetero normative? Not all gays are switch you know? And do you really think the author cares about your opinion? Just because it's heteronormative should women stop being held and should peg their husband just to try???

this is laughable. its heteronormative because its ALMOST THE WHOLE GENRE of BL that has strict roles when real gay men often switch. the reason is literal heteronormativity, because men and woman cant switch (excluding pegging which is not a societal norm). this is about the larger picture. its mostly straight women who write these, not actual gay men, and thats why we see this. so before u get aggressive, maybe try actually thinking about it.

It's true.
Strict tops are often hetero-lite.
They're very toxicly masculine about it.
Strict bottoms are also afraid to lose their femininity if they top.
But, like, they're gay so who fucking cares about stereotypical heterosexual roles.
Such bullshit

The good shit, instead of settling ╮(￣▽￣)╭

But real talk; it's one thing to read what's available,it's another thing to not criticize the toxic shit inside of it.

Let's use Killing Stalking as a classic example.
It has murder, torture, rape, incest, manipulation, and more shit.

They technically have gay fucking in it; but the story isn't BL, it's psychological thriller.

There's the fans that read it and acknowledge how horrifying it is; then there's fans that read it and think it's "hot."

Nothing wrong with reading something, so long as you think critically about it.

Similar to how we have documentaries of murderers, and I'm pretty sure most of us say that shit is fucked up, and wouldn't defend it.

I'm using extreme examples, but I'm just using it for the sake of explaining why it's important to acknowledge what you're reading may be wrong, and to call it out.

Before y'all continue debating this:

Switch is a term for a BDSM relationship dynamic.
That person can be a dom or sub.

Versatile is a term in a sexual dynamic.
(Originating in the gay community)
They can either be a top or bottom.

For example; someone can be a top yet be a switch.
Someone can be versatile yet be a dom.

BDSM:
Dom = dominating
Sub = submissive
Switch = can be dominating or submissive

Sexual:
Top = doing the fucking
Bottom= getting the fucking
Versatile/Vers = can either get fucked or give a fuck

First thing first. We're reading illegally here so no matter how much we shout its not going to change anything. You can use author's Twitter handle to criticize in a healthy way. There you'll see results either positive or negative.
About switching my opinion is quite soft . I don't mind what author give me actually. They can switch, they can't.
Both parties need to enjoy. Like here Theo was willing to take Seth , so what's the issue?
It would be interesting to see this switching topic raised in comment sections of Jinx , Viewfinder , Limited run , passion or salty lust .
Here atleast Theo had an option, something to choose. Unlike others where their identity is set as Bottom one .
This is a beautiful story. Fresh Breeze . 100× times better than the garbage being served as sexual assault, Rape, Stockholm syndrome,rich seme vs poor uke,debt,doormat uke .
Female authors somehow appreciates this setting, let them enjoy what they draw its their work after all.
Too much opinions , too much interferences can ruin that spirit.
Maybe you can drop a message on Twitter to make Seke plot next time. Me too will love to read it.
This comment section which was calm as a deep ocean before somehow got ignited after that particular episode , turned into this controversial content.
This story is like a breather to me . I read this to calm my mind after reading other shits. Both Protagonists are lovable.