Y’all, it’s literally a yaoi. Get over it.

Fine. I apologize for assuming you're a female, but can you blame me? 3/4 of people that read Yaoi are stupid females that think they know everything about gay sex and gay relationships.

Yet my point still stands. And I will say that I don't agree with the abusive relationships that often take place in yaoi's, but its honestly comforting for me because I was in a abusive relationship with my ex. He only wanted sex, that was it, and I wanted love. So, honestly yeah. I am fucked up for letting myself indulge in watching toxic relationships take happy turns in these fucked up stories. Lot's of the yaoi's I read are abusive, but over half of them turn out with happy endings.

I never said that it was okay, I simply said move on if you don't like it. I do like it because I'm fucked up, but can you blame me? When your abused you can either embrace it and make something out of it or you can wallow in it. And honestly, I'm still stuck between the two.

No one would, or quite frankly, should, be taken seriously if they considered yaoi “porn.”
There are minors on this site and your comment is a bit vulgar. If people had their way and porn was removed.... Yaoi would still remain.


https://jerichowriters.com/distinguishing-porn-from-erotica-as-fiction-genre/
"Porn seeks to lower, erotica to elevate. Porn is imposed, violent, debasing. Erotica celebrates sex within an adult, and with the genre of ‘erotica romance’ catching on, increasingly intense, romantic relationships."

https://feministtheoryfictionunil.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/the-difference-between-erotica-and-pornography/
" But if pornography is about sex, it is not the only area that deals with this topic. Erotism is about sex too but there is a lot of differences between these two themes. The main difference is that erotism involves feelings, while pornogaphy does not. '


https://www.timesnownews.com/mirror-now/in-focus/article/explained-how-erotica-is-different-from-pornography-and-laws-dealing-with-sexually-explicit-content/791163
What is pornography?

Pornography is considered as an act whose sole purpose is to stimulate sexual desire. According to Oxford dictionary, pornography is describing or showing naked people and sexual acts in order to make people feel sexually excited, especially in a way that many other people find offensive."

What is erotica

Erotica is any artwork that deals with stimulating or sexually arousing subject matter. This includes painting, sculpture, photography, drama film, music or literature. Erotica is considered as an artistic viewpoint of an individual and whose sole objective is to appreciate the art.

https://thegallerist.art/sacred-sexuality-erotica-vs-pornography/

https://www.editorji.com/story/in-depth-pornography-vs-erotica-is-it-time-to-stop-shoving-them-under-the-same-umbrella-1630734518210
In Depth: Pornography vs Erotica: Is it time to stop shoving them under the same umbrella?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/erotica-and-pornography-what-distinguishes-them/articleshow/84611425.cms

https://www.clarendonhousebooks.com/single-post/2019/08/14/the-difference-between-erotica-and-pornography

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolution-of-the-self/201104/what-distinguishes-erotica-from-pornography

https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-2224,00.html

https://www.hindustantimes.com/books/writing-erotica-isn-t-as-easy-as-you-think-here-s-a-12-point-manual-on-getting-it-right/story-4raM8z9LyaEb46QAQVf45L.html


Now Stop shoving your opinion down people's throat when they are correct.

Okay, so your entire argument is that minors should still be able to read yaoi because the LITERAL EXPLICIT SEX isn’t… porn… ?

Make that make sense.

“Stop shoving your opinions down people throat”, bro what? I’m say facts. Yaoi is fuckin porn, it’s literally just reading, and in this case visually seeing sex, which is porn.
Let me remind you of the legal definition of PORN! “ material that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement”. That’s literally what yaoi is, erotic depictions of two men ‘making love’, so sex. It’s meant to excite people. So it’s literally fucking porn. Stop trying to glamorize yaoi and say it’s safe for children to read. You sound like a 13 year old that’s offended that I’m saying that porn is porn, and reading gay men having explicit sex somehow isn’t porn. Oh, wait, that’s what’s happening. Your somehow ticked off that I’m calling out the obvious. And the obvious is we all read yaoi simply because we want to watch two dudes fucking, that’s literally just READING PORN!

Minors shouldn’t be on this site in the first place, and your obviously making it worse because your saying that yaoi isn’t full of porn, which is literally is because it’s erotic sex between two men, which is the definition of yaoi and porn. So. Your argument isn’t much of an argument.

So you lost the argument to where you decided to impose an argument on me. "Okay, so your entire argument is that minors should still be able to read yaoi because the LITERAL EXPLICIT SEX isn’t… porn… ?" That is your imposing argument. more imposing arguments " Stop trying to glamorize yaoi and say it’s safe for children to read." "Your somehow ticked off" lol 98 % of my post was not my words. hehehehehe.. What are you on?

Can you have a civil conversation without imposing false arguments?


I posted many links. You are giving your opinion. You are doing personal attacks too. That makes you know you lost here. porn is porn. Yaoi is not porn. Some come close but some don't like Fake. Why don't you come back when you can handle a civil conversation? Minors should be on this site since it is not a porn site and have stories from them ike yu gi oh, sailor moon, etc.
Technically, no one should be on this site because it is illegal website. Minors should stay away from adult stories as this is marked 18 or 19 years and up. You need to handle being wrong better. I am not angry. I am not changing someone's stances or opinions, imposing arguments on someone, or attacking them, like you are me. I only posted facts with a few sentences. You are imposing emotions and that is an attempt to discredit me. But I am not those links. hehehehe. You are projecting. You are making it worse.

Yaoi is not porn. Debunked. Now go read those links. Bye. Thanks for the laugh. hehehe

Exactly what I meant. Yaoi isn’t porn. Thanks for the links.

no i get ur perspective and i do agree that the way the story is turning out is pretty gross— but personally atp i’m turning off my brain and i’m solely only reading (or rather just LOOKING) at it for the art. and since i’m too lazy to reply to ur other comment (sorry lol it’s late here for me) ik that this is written by a cis woman who doesn’t know much about gay sex. it was already clear from the get go but tbh porn is rarely ever realistic. i don’t base my sexual experiences on porn/don’t use porn as a reference for my sexual experiences. again, i def don’t like or agree where the story is heading at ALL, but that doesn’t mean i can’t enjoy the art- i dunno

this is a really fueled comment- like you have the right idea but you’re not communicating it in the best way

okay i take it back- i am gonna reply to a few of ur comments LMAO- i’m not necessarily entirely disagreeing with you, but tbh if it’s not your cup of tea, just move on. i don’t like this plot either and you have the right to share your opinion. but people also have the right to disagree (slightly or entirely). yeah this trope is annoying. i’m not reading it for the story anymore (or maybe i am but i’m “hate” reading it???) but if people do and they sincerely support this disgusting behavior… man idk what can you do??? it’s not your problem to deal with anyway. it’s someone on the internet you don’t know personally. yeah it sucks but is it directly affecting you? not really

i don’t agree with them entirely but people have the right to make opinions- even if they are “annoying” or the “minority”. it’s a public comment section after all. OP had the right to state whatever they wanted to make, and then the person who disagreed can say whatever they want either- i don’t get why it needs to be so heated tho when people disagree

Okay first of all whether or not you’re a gay man, my problem with your arguments is that they’re confrontational with very little to back them up. You’ve insulted people for having a different opinion than you and that’s not okay. And second of all the list of genre for this manga include SMUT, now if you know anything about mangas, that means one of the main theme of this is sex, meaning whatever the plot is, it will include a lot of sex (it’s a warning). And third of all, did we forget that mangas are not based of real characters? It’s a fantasy which means the author has free range to create and write whatever story they wish. And to come at them and insult them because they created a story you don’t approve of is completely rude and frankly just stupid. Honestly, I don’t know why this became an argument about the whole yaoi genre. Whether or not it’s porn or erotica, like the smut is still supposed to stimulate sexual desire and if it’s triggering for you, heed the warnings and walk away. This story is not going to please everyone and that’s okay, it doesn’t give you any right to put yourself on some high pedestal, talking about “I’m reading it still to see how the author will redeem themselves” like please F off, the author doesn’t owe you anything. Bye

I can't believe people actually think smut and erotica are the same as porn, lmao. Thanks for the links. I hate porn, but smut/erotica are ok in my book. Also, the way OP calls women "females", is just weird and disturbing. It doesn't make it anymore ok just because he is a gay man.