sad society, though...

blackdia December 5, 2016 1:20 pm

Hey!, is really korean society that bad? Is it me, or all of these stories go around abused children? I realized that, even though I know a lot about korean history, I probably know nothing about the social tissue. These stories are scaring the hell out of me. For my own personal reasons, I think it's important to tell this kind of story but when every pattern follow this path it's disturbing...

Responses
    Geo December 5, 2016 1:21 pm

    It's not just korean it's worldwide

    mrl98 December 5, 2016 2:12 pm
    It's not just korean it's worldwide Geo

    Yes but Korea/Japan love depicting these dramatic tropes in their mangas/dramas...

    Eduardo24 December 5, 2016 2:18 pm

    Child abuse is a pretty hot topic for any entertainment platform

    blackdia December 5, 2016 2:53 pm

    Mine is what you might call a "sociologic curiosity"… of course you're all right, they love depicting dramatic patterns, but… I find (maybe it's only me) a difference between japanese and korean concepts. Dramas are all about tragedies and sometimes they are simply ridiculously dramatic, that's fine, is part of the entertainment, but here I guess I hear a bell ringing. LIke it's a specific and intentional topic. Of course mine is just an impression that might be completely wrong. I'm not judging a culture I know almost nothing about. Maybe this is just not my cup of tea… thank you for your thoughts.

    mrl98 December 5, 2016 3:51 pm
    Mine is what you might call a "sociologic curiosity"… of course you're all right, they love depicting dramatic patterns, but… I find (maybe it's only me) a difference between japanese and korean concepts. D... blackdia

    Idk if that would help, but in Egypt child abuse is quiet normal even to parents with no authority to be there for them. It's worse for orphans every few days we find out in the news some orphans were burnt/tortured etc.. Also sometimes they put them in jail and abuse them. Children from poor families work as servants, workers or whatever and no child communities to protect them.Children, women and LGBT are living those dramas daily and in quiet huge number, but our media prefers to ignore such thing's unlike mangaks and writers in the west/korea they highlight these issues. What I don't like that these mangas/manhwas aren't offering any solutions they just let the lead go with the flow

    Geo December 5, 2016 5:54 pm
    Yes but Korea/Japan love depicting these dramatic tropes in their mangas/dramas... mrl98

    Yea but everyone of all races use it as a platform for the stories
    It's the from Raggs to riches

    Geo December 5, 2016 5:57 pm
    Idk if that would help, but in Egypt child abuse is quiet normal even to parents with no authority to be there for them. It's worse for orphans every few days we find out in the news some orphans were burnt/tor... mrl98

    Yes :/ people try to highlight these things and bring attention to them but a lot of people end up dismissing them

    mrl98 December 5, 2016 6:05 pm
    Yes :/ people try to highlight these things and bring attention to them but a lot of people end up dismissing them Geo

    Why dismissing them? Because they're over used and good popcorn people don't take it seriously anymore, plus writers give their heros happy ending so why start an uproar for a daily issue where things get better by time? Korean manhwas do that IMO. They're all orphans/abused/poor/blackmailed etc.. and they get their happy ending somehow. They don't show a real approach to this issue. For example the manhwa ongoing called " this is the end " it's a BL about a blackmailed kid who suicides and now the new kid in his body fighting by attacking other kids, the more realistic solution is suicide unfortunately since no high school kid can actually beat up 90% of his school.
    This manga for example Kang Jun was abused but he didn't try to report to the police, the other kid didn't tell his mother maybe she can help, nothing and probably Kang Jun was rescued by his estranged father or something. Some super power would come for him, but a real solution? Nope. Even try a solution and see if it doesn't work this time people may question those realistic methods? Nope. I hope I'm wrong though

    Geo December 5, 2016 6:11 pm
    Why dismissing them? Because they're over used and good popcorn people don't take it seriously anymore, plus writers give their heros happy ending so why start an uproar for a daily issue where things get bette... mrl98

    I know xD I read that bl xD its the shit xD and what I meant that they dismiss it cause they usually always get a happy ending. It's rare when it don't go into the happy route and end up in a realistic way, being tragedy most of the time

    blackdia December 5, 2016 10:48 pm

    Thank again for your answers, they are all deeply meaningful. I'm aware of the situation in Egypt, while I never read anything about Korea that was so specific, that's why it caught my attention.

    We might say these authors follow the Dickens' method: they do not offer any solution and always give an happy ending, but in the meantime, they do show the problem.
    What intrigues me is the fact that all of these manhwas follow the exact same pattern, so either the problem is really endemic or the authors have no fantasy at all.
    I guess I felt like the right answer is the first one: they are reporting something serious in a trivial way.

    Artists do not have the power to solve social issues. When they actually offer a solution, the problem has been solved before even if the public still does not realize it. Sometimes the issue is bigger than them, and provocative forms of art would be censored, so they choose the Dicken's method, that seems harmless… but it's not. Because the real goal is to enlighten people about the issue.
    This is what I felt reading these stories.

    "What lies in the end" has a really scary pattern, where most people get distracted by the love story forgetting anything else and, considering the story, this kind of reaction is simply disgusting, to me.

    In real life, even in my country, kids commit suicide because of bullies in school (I mean, like, one a month almost every year, it makes me crazy).
    It's really wrong, shouldn't they report the abuse to someone?… but in fact, they are too scared. Bullies are cowards, who always choose the "right victim", someone who is, for some reason, alone. You know what really make me angry? …the other kids watching. My mother taught me to stand for the weak, for those in trouble, always, and I didn't get into any particular drama because cowards are cowards. If a small number of people oppose them, they vanish. You have to stop them before they convert to their perversion everyone around them. It's very important to organize society in order to control these kind of issues by the law, but I personally would also teach my children to stand for other people's right like my mother did with me. That's what's all about: society is not "the others" it's "us".

    Sorry, this was a sad comment. I really hate the idea of abusing someone, even though I have never been a victim myself. That's probably why I don't really get into this kind of story. The only manhwa I am really appreciating is Moritat, I guess.

    Geo December 6, 2016 7:58 am
    Thank again for your answers, they are all deeply meaningful. I'm aware of the situation in Egypt, while I never read anything about Korea that was so specific, that's why it caught my attention.We might say th... blackdia

    I love your long and well-thought out comment xD I was bullied in school when I was younger but I never figured myself as a victim, my mother taught me to kick boys in the nuts if they ever harassed me and to stick gum in girls hair xD and yes its sad, sometimes violence becomes common people get tired and just decide to turn a blind eye

    blackdia December 6, 2016 1:53 pm
    I love your long and well-thought out comment xD I was bullied in school when I was younger but I never figured myself as a victim, my mother taught me to kick boys in the nuts if they ever harassed me and to ... Geo

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