this site's readers literally are too weak lol. please learn to separate fiction and stop ...

hachi leaf December 3, 2023 4:42 pm

this site's readers literally are too weak lol. please learn to separate fiction and stop acting like yall are on a moral high ground, thanks. screaming morals in an ILLEGAL site for a FICTIONAL work is just performative af.

it's okay not to like what's happening and express you're upset with the development but literally shaming and screaming at anyone who still likes reading this is ironic since how come you're still here if for you this manhwa "promotes abuse"? stop outing yourself lol.

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    Sumer December 3, 2023 5:13 pm

    Who's shaming and screaming....

    Jessica Orlando December 3, 2023 5:15 pm
    Who's shaming and screaming.... Sumer

    they’re referring to people in the comments

    Sumer December 3, 2023 5:18 pm
    they’re referring to people in the comments Jessica Orlando

    Ayi, i really found a person or two acting like reading this makes us so so so bad....sigh

    hachi leaf December 3, 2023 5:28 pm
    Ayi, i really found a person or two acting like reading this makes us so so so bad....sigh Sumer

    had also an encounter in another manga's comments with someone like this this is why i prefer the mrm comment sections but i dont like getting jumpscared by the ads and homescreen there so!

    BoxyTrash December 3, 2023 8:35 pm

    I feel like less people should stop preaching abt shit being morally bad and maybe come to the conclusion that maybe just maybe the story and characters are just really badly written, even with all the romanticizing abuse bs aside

    I was actually more disappointed this wasn't supposed to be a psychological abuse BL than the fact that it had rape and shit in it
    Dan and JK also are also one note as hell and somehow we as the audience are supposed to believe these 2 feel romantically for each other when like almost all their scenes prior were sexual or abusive lmao ok sure

    But ngl I enjoy it cuz I think it is extremly fun to look at trash fires like these, but if you geniunly it honestly good for you for being able to see worth in it lol

    hachi leaf December 4, 2023 5:46 pm
    I feel like less people should stop preaching abt shit being morally bad and maybe come to the conclusion that maybe just maybe the story and characters are just really badly written, even with all the romantic... BoxyTrash

    nah im the same as you it had potential at first but the way the author's selling dan falling in love with jk is so bad. every time i read an update i just prepare myself for comedy i wouldn't have mind if this continued being abusive if only the romance was actually plotted right lololol

    Sumer December 5, 2023 3:19 am
    I feel like less people should stop preaching abt shit being morally bad and maybe come to the conclusion that maybe just maybe the story and characters are just really badly written, even with all the romantic... BoxyTrash

    Damn, finally another argument, but also you're so right. Both of them are so one dimensional and have basically same temperament everywhere and there's no development in either of them. Then there's added emotional burden of sexual abuse on top. How is the romance supposed to happen ayo I can't remember any series like this fr

    Manhwaspicy December 5, 2023 12:07 pm

    I feel Mingwa just wanted to make a story about two people suffering. Dan is poor and has to save his grandma. Jaekyung has a shoulder injury and still yearns to stay at the top. I feel she's trying to construct a story for the two romantically. And with the pace she's taken, I feel any author would do the same. I also like the fact that Jaekyung isn't easy like most Yaoi semes. I'm just tryna be patient with how the story’s flowing. And why does it matter if a story is progressing through abuse? Is this the first time shit like this is happening? Why are people so baffled by it? And they always come to the conclusion that the author is romanticizing abuse. This is simply the reality of things where people romanticize shit all around, any adult would be smart enough to not romanticize abuse. And the little kids who aren't of age reading this are also wrong.

    I also feel we should highly consider the fact that Dan and Jaekyung are not in a romantic relationship…yet. So people should not be expecting Jk to be all lovey-dovey with him. Yeah, we're expecting them to be together but comprehend the situation before you judge. Anyway, I hope we read this to the end though

    And honestly, if anyone hates this story, just drop it I beg. There are a lot more manhwas to read and if you continue torturing yourself, I'll name you a fool. You're ruining the experiences of other readers. Peace.♡

    BoxyTrash December 5, 2023 1:43 pm
    I feel Mingwa just wanted to make a story about two people suffering. Dan is poor and has to save his grandma. Jaekyung has a shoulder injury and still yearns to stay at the top. I feel she's trying to construc... Manhwaspicy

    It is most definitely romanticizing abuse though. One cannot tag something as 'Romance', put abuse that is not shown as being a bad thing by the story into the main couple we are supposed to root for and then claim it doesn't romanticize it at all. Now does that mean people shouldn't read it? Nah people can read whatever the hell they wanna but be media literate/mature enough to understand that this is a romantization of abuse

    Also gods I love stories about two people suffering together (and either getting worse or better) but the way this story is doing it ain't it.
    We don't get any insight to what Dan is thinking about the abuse JK is putting him through except of pity or worry for JK... which not only is quite unrealistic that he hasn't had a mental breakdown or at least mental monolouge about it yet but also makes him a hella boring character. The reason the abuse moving the plot forward doesn't work is because it tries to make it seem cute and hot (as in Dan catches feelings for JK even though their romantic interactions are almost non-existant in a manhwa wanting to have a romance between them) rather than a serious topic or even horrifying to the reader as you see in works such as KS or Warehouse for example

    The reason why I critizise Jinx so much is quite simply because it really is worse than the average BL, yet it is immensly popular even though there is a million better BLs both in characters and story that would never get this type of attention.
    I geniunly think most people are only still in on it for the smut or because it's so bad it's good and has us hooked like a low budget soap opera

    Manhwaspicy December 5, 2023 3:01 pm

    I think my comment got deleted.

    Manhwaspicy December 5, 2023 3:04 pm
    I think my comment got deleted. Manhwaspicy

    I said a lot of things. I'm kinda tired so I can't rewrite that. But I talked a lot about Dan’s personality and why he would develop such feelings.

    Sumer December 6, 2023 1:22 am
    It is most definitely romanticizing abuse though. One cannot tag something as 'Romance', put abuse that is not shown as being a bad thing by the story into the main couple we are supposed to root for and then c... BoxyTrash

    Lack of insight on both character's behalf (monologues) frustrates me so bad like bro "what are your thoughts on this?" Please

    Manhwaspicy December 6, 2023 2:12 am

    I really don't know why my comment isn't posting

    Manhwaspicy December 6, 2023 2:15 am
    I really don't know why my comment isn't posting Manhwaspicy

    Hey, I decided to reply now that I'm free.

    On L3hzin ( the official site), there was no romance tag included but it's safe to say this is bad romance. I actually don't care what people do, read whatever and kill yourself because of it, I actually dgaf. It's just foolish to read something you despise so much, complaining about it every day considering it's just fiction. Foolishness.

    I also don't think the author wants to romanticize abuse at all. Look at the situations of these characters. Kim Dan having no one by his side apart from his grandma, grew up with no knowledge of self-respect, no friends, shown no kindness from the world, bullied, beaten, and duped, he has been at the lowest of the low both physically and emotionally, his life has been threatened, having to work tons of jobs for his grandma, received no rest, a pushover throughout his life, no experience in sexual or romantic activities, an inexperienced virgin. And suddenly Jakeyung shows up and clears every single misery like it was nothing leaving Dan to choose what is obviously better for him.

    Jaekyung clears Dan’s debt, saves Dan from being gang raped, lets him live in his home when he allows no one and Dan is aware of that, food on the table, visits grandma in the hospital when Dan was unable to due to tiredness, makes granny happy, shared an unexpected kiss which completely shocked Dan, he's insanely attractive. And considering that Dan was aesthetically attracted to Jakeyung before the abuse is already shaming your opinion. (you can read up on it). And then finally proceeds to call Dan “one of his own”

    Why wouldn't Dan fall for this shithead despite all the abuse? Yes, Dan acknowledges the abuse, I think in chap 36-38, Dan said, “Yes I admit Mr. Joo can be rough but I've been handling it well and it's not like it's that bad” Dan knows he's not being treated well but he's completely responsible for JK. And also think about Jk too, having that kind of jumpscare about the article. I have many friends who are athletes and I will tell you that Jk reacted perfectly when scared or stressed. I'm not saying it's right but be in his shoes and comprehend the situation. (I'm talking about the time he found out about the article and treated dan wrongly).

    Dan is in a situation where he feels entitled and indebted to Jk so he ignores all the terrible things because he feels Jk has done a lot for him so why should he complain . Very realistic. I've seen so many situations like this where their partner doesn't treat them right but they still stay in hopes that they could change them or because they're far too deep in love. I've also read many articles of people telling their experiences of how it took them a while to get over their partner who doesn't treat them right, it's called leaving a toxic relationship. Very realistic.

    There was a time when Jk told Dan to think of himself first before others, this just proves that he can't even have a mental breakdown because he's doing all these for his grandma, as long as his grandma is okay, he's okay too. So why should he have a breakdown? You should remember that not everyone is the same.

    Mingwa’s pace is flowing through and I feel any professional author would have gone with this pace based on their personalities. Mingwa's pacing is very unique and different from those rushed unrealistic developments. And the way each character reacts to situations is just perfect if you understand the personalities of these two.

    Mingwa is simply merging two imperfect and suffering characters, molding them to perhaps form a bond afterward. There is absolutely nothing unrealistic here.

    Manhwaspicy December 6, 2023 2:15 am

    Finally it posted

    Manhwaspicy December 6, 2023 2:17 am
    Hey, I decided to reply now that I'm free.On L3hzin ( the official site), there was no romance tag included but it's safe to say this is bad romance. I actually don't care what people do, read whatever and kill... Manhwaspicy

    I forgot to add the part where he has been sexualky harassed at the hospital.

    Manhwaspicy December 6, 2023 2:23 am

    I apologize if this is long but please you have to read it thanks

    BoxyTrash December 6, 2023 11:53 am
    Hey, I decided to reply now that I'm free.On L3hzin ( the official site), there was no romance tag included but it's safe to say this is bad romance. I actually don't care what people do, read whatever and kill... Manhwaspicy

    Ok fair point. Still, pretty sure Mingwa herself claimed Dan and JK are gonna be in a romantic relationship so...

    And look maybe Mingwa didn't try to romanticize abuse but she's still doing it no matter if she's aware about it or not, I can already see it coming that Dan will forgive JK for all of it. And just because JK is the lesser bad (and hot) still doesn't deter from the fact that he's an absolute pos abuser.

    I never said it is unrealistic for Dan to fall for him in such situation, since yes stuff like this happens in toxic relationships. What I think is unrealistic is that it tries to cater that to reader as them having geniune romantic chemistry which they really do not

    I meant having a mental breakdwon as an example of building interest, because having no insight in Dan makes him an awfully boring character. All his thoughts are surface level and we never get to know what he is thinking beyond "Poor JK :(" or "I love granny so I'm fine :)", yeah sure not everyone reacts the same but Dan would at least have a very huge hit in self worth or any spiraling thoughts because of JK yet we don't ever see any of his thoughts about it beyond surface level.

    My problem with the story isn't the pace but rather how it presents itself and it's boring characters.
    There is no real intrigue to see these 2 characters suffer and then form a bond afterwards. There is geniunly more intrigue to see how these 2 carboard cutouts are going to get written into your standard forgive the abuser yaoi.

    Also, this is quite opinionated but so is your idea of the story, as I said if you find worth in it knock yourself out. I just absolutely love writing critiques of stories that I don't deem as good (well and good ones too actually)

    Manhwaspicy December 6, 2023 4:52 pm
    Ok fair point. Still, pretty sure Mingwa herself claimed Dan and JK are gonna be in a romantic relationship so...And look maybe Mingwa didn't try to romanticize abuse but she's still doing it no matter if she's... BoxyTrash

    Let's just read to the end and see how things turn out pal

    Sumer December 6, 2023 5:38 pm
    Let's just read to the end and see how things turn out pal Manhwaspicy

    Ok uh I just wanted to mention I been reading all your comments and it's so fun to read such deep insight and opinions on this story other than the braindead arguments and insults people have been throwing in the comments always.
    Thanks you two (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ