hating elena still is so valid

levipleasecallmeback December 14, 2023 10:46 am

look i know she’s also a victim of the system but still, playing the innocent role in order to make powerful men fawn for you and getting them to bully another girl is horrible and manipulative. at least eris was a bitch to people’s face

ps. don’t assume i think eris’s actions are okay either like yes she did bad things too but it’s fine to point out flaws in other characters

Responses
    zy5knn December 14, 2023 11:22 am

    it’s not as if she was playing innocent since she was js a maid she couldn’t do anything bc all the men who liked her were wayyyyyy more powerful but still i get it

    taelika December 14, 2023 11:30 am

    Uh? Have you not properly read the manhwa? She never told them to bully her nor did she play an innocent role, as she was kind since birth. She even let herself be killed by Eris so she could go back? As Eris kills her, Eris even says "Helena, you saved even a lowly human like me." She never even disliked Eris and even forgave her for the bullying she put her through. Are you perhaps dumb

    levipleasecallmeback December 14, 2023 12:24 pm
    it’s not as if she was playing innocent since she was js a maid she couldn’t do anything bc all the men who liked her were wayyyyyy more powerful but still i get it zy5knn

    she was though, she knew it was wrong it but it benefited her. there is powerful people at play but it doesn’t mean she wasn’t privileged- she was playing a part with the men. i really liked her as a character so i wanted to acknowledge how it still makes sense people don’t like her regardless of helena explanating her own actions. imo even if she spoke up, jason or the prince wouldn’t harm her

    levipleasecallmeback December 14, 2023 12:43 pm
    Uh? Have you not properly read the manhwa? She never told them to bully her nor did she play an innocent role, as she was kind since birth. She even let herself be killed by Eris so she could go back? As Eris k... taelika

    lmao are u genuinely okay? this is a personal opinion about a fictional character but you’re acting like i said something genuinely problematic… it’s weird to come off this aggressive over a lighthearted comment. helena was kind but the point of her backstory showed that even the most pure hearted people can be flawed in some ways and that’s okay. you made my opinion sound so extreme, as if i said helenas actions were equal to eris but that wasn’t the case. i didn’t bash helena as a character, the point of my paragraph was to say readers are allowed to dislike her because of her actions. i don’t think we’re reading the same thing and you clearly aren’t wise enough to think critically. obviously she didn’t tell them to bully her?? but she never cleared their misunderstandings knowing full well eris wasn’t the perpetrator at times. this isn’t erasure of past eris actions either but turning a blind eye is still fucked up

    acting like im ignoring that scene was actually insane of you tbh… i applaud you for making assumptions, to excuse the way you’re talking to me. u read into this way too deep. are perhaps mentally ill and stupid?

    levipleasecallmeback December 14, 2023 12:49 pm
    Uh? Have you not properly read the manhwa? She never told them to bully her nor did she play an innocent role, as she was kind since birth. She even let herself be killed by Eris so she could go back? As Eris k... taelika

    this could’ve been a good discussion but coming off pretentious and rude immediately was strange. we can agree to disagree and move on, no need to play the attack dog just because you had a bad day

    tomka December 14, 2023 7:15 pm

    this is crazy, did we not read the same story lol helena's backstory literally showed she is just a maid, lowerclass, below the men who love her and is absolutely powerless to say no to a whole ass crown prince, she never even once bullied Eris or would even have the power to bc eris is higher class, much higher. class consciousness people!!!!

    ann4liesa December 15, 2023 7:31 am
    this is crazy, did we not read the same story lol helena's backstory literally showed she is just a maid, lowerclass, below the men who love her and is absolutely powerless to say no to a whole ass crown prince... tomka

    regardless of class, she had them fawning over her. they literally could care less that she was a maid. anything she said couldve helped eris’ tbh because the guys were literally at her beck and call. im not saying she was manipulative so dont get ur knockers in a twist but i think its alright to point out her mistakes. being a victim doesnt exempt you from hurting others too. you can do both

    ann4liesa December 15, 2023 7:32 am

    and i think helena, some part of her, probably regrets not having done anything too

    GrapeKiwi December 16, 2023 5:14 am
    this is crazy, did we not read the same story lol helena's backstory literally showed she is just a maid, lowerclass, below the men who love her and is absolutely powerless to say no to a whole ass crown prince... tomka

    I think what this person was getting at was that Helena acknowledged that the prince didn't treat Eris well but turned a blind eye to it (on the advice of her late mother about remaining ignorant in the palace). So by default, she wasn't innocent. Helena regretted ignoring what was really happening in front of her later and that is why Alec got this version of her in the latest chapter. She doesn't love him.