He was acting as if it was ukes fault!!!!
Fuckin narcissistic ass ,ugly sonofabitch. The audacity of the incel. I just hope uke develops some courage and tell this loser that he raped him that night
He didn't rape him. Did you forget this is an omegaverse??? And that he was high on sex hormones and sexual urges??? He was releasing pherormones due to the rut. He's not conscious of what he was doing. Idk why you keep applying real world principles to a fictional world where people go into ruts and heats and can't control themselves and where men can get pregnant and self lubricate and where there is pheromones released and they are affect by these pherormones. Do you think a lucid, non-rutting alpha would have had sex with a lucid beta?!? The beta literally GOT turned into an omega, became receptive to the alpha's pheromones and went into heat, and thereby releasing his own pherormones which then affects the alpha. It's natural course of the mating dance communicated through chemical messages via the sense of smell. It's a VERY NATURAL and INSTINCTIVE desire to mate with an omega, to mark the omega, and to come inside to knot with the omega. THAT is what Omegaverses is ALL about. I don't know why you guys are APPLYING real world principles to a literally FICTIONAL where ppl go crazy and still blame them and hold them to the SAME STANDARDS as real life. I just don't get it. They're literally in an ENTIRELY different world. Just put yourselves in their shoes and see how it is. Your immersion apparently isn't enough if you can't see that.
I understand what you're saying, but then that's literally what animals do. Have absolutely no control over their urges during rut and heat period and just have senseless sex with only the idea of having an offspring. That's literally what animals are like. And it's absolutely wild to see that human beings are displayed to have the exactttttt same behaviour. Yes i understand it's fictional, i understand that it's the alpha omega thing but even in fiction, if a character cannot overcome the urges even a little bit and not maintain humanity a little bit then what's the difference between them being a human or a dog or any other animal. I mean sure i understand the logic but even if it's fiction we gotta draw a line because then why is that character a human being? Being a human being means you have a lot more sense, and control than other animals of the world. That's gotta stay infact even in fiction.
Because if we see it that way, then how do we defend the victims even in the real world. For instance, in the real world if a person is highly intoxicated coz of alcohol(it depresses the critical thinking and increases libido) and ends up forcing someone weaker into having sex, thereby raping then then can that person be defended by saying that they were under the effect of alcohol and not in their right mind. Can the rapist be defended by that? Coz obviously if alphas can be defended by saying that they were under the effect of pheromones then shouldnt rapists be defended if they were under the influence of substance? No. So i understand your point but in no way can this be defended. Even in fiction. Gotta control the urges, if not, go stay in a kennel.
I think you guys really don't understand the definition of OMEGAVERSEs. Read the chapter where Ian came to find Noah and in it he LITERALLY described what they are like during their heats and ruts. Like animals. How many Omegaverses have you read?!? This a COMMON setting!!! They are LITERALLY animals....which part is alphas and omegas are control by their primal animalistic instincts during their ruts and heats don't you understand?!? This universe sets up these second genders with these EXACT attributes. Normal regular humans like us and our equivalents in the omegaverses, the betas, are NOT under these influences AND can be held ACCOUNTABLE for their actions the EXACT same way as you have described. But because alphas and omegas are a while different SPECIES altogether, you cannot apply the same logic and principles to a human who has been graces with animalistic traits during the ruts. Yes. The very definition of an omega. Precisely, as you say, because you cannot accept this, that while you are READING an omegaverse you aren't actually ABLE to understand what they go through. The analogy to a drunkard, yes, they are under the influence, but that influence doesn't excuse that fact, and IF ANYTHING, WOULD OR SHOULD add to their sentence. The simple reason is this. In an omegaverse, these people are BORN with these traits. Their ruts and heats hit them unexpectedly, and even if they are regular in their heats and ruts they are powerless to prevent the heats and ruts and typically powerless to regulate themselves, meaning however strong, or however long, the rut goes for is up to mother nature. THAT is NOT within their control. So you cannot hold them ACCOUNTABLE for that. Ian is a victim as much as Noah is because, did he wanted this to happen??? The mating sex, the marking, the impregnation?!? No. But it had happened PRECISELY because it was OUT of their control.
Now, a normal person/aka a beta, of he or she HAD taken some mind and body altering substance had much more responsibility. Prior to taking the substance, unless they're addicts, they are aware of what they are doing. They have the capacity to CHOOSE when, and where, and how much to take, and for whatever length of time they wish to INDULGE in these activities. The DIFFERENCE between someone (beta) USING (again, unless you're an addict then you're mind is already gone - so yeah in that sense they're like these alphas and omegas in heat because they no longer have the capacity to control their addictions) and omegas and alphas were MADE that way. They didn't voluntarily induce themselves to go into heats and ruts. Their natural body cycle is wellz a natural cycle, much like how women have their periods. Same thing. We're not talking about taking BC to regulate these cycles, just talking about NATURAL cycles. So, can you decide WHEN you menstruate??? How long you menstruate for, how MUCH you will menstruate, how much PAIN you will be feeling?!? No. This is the EXACT same thing that these alphas and omegas go through. They have no control over it, much like an addict. But as when they are lucid and not controlled by their rutting instincts, then yes they behave like you and I do. Like normal ppl. But people who do drugs, alcohol, or other mind and body altering substance RECREATIONALLY HAVE that ability to control themselves. So the difference is that. They can choose when, where, what, how much, and for how long. They have CONTROL. Alphas and omegas DON'T.
Sooooo according to you NOTHING IN THIS FUCKING ALPHA OMEGA WORLD will ever be considered rape COZ they got pheromones? Oh goshhhh.
Lets see how you defend when the villain of a story rapes the omega. Just because the alpha is the ML it's easy to defend shit he does, i WONDER HOW and IF YOU'LL DEFEND an ugly looking villain or the second lead rapes the omega and ha sthe EXCUSE of fucki g pheromones. Will you defend that villain that day too? Coz gahdamn the moral compass is in the gutters rn.
How is the moral compass in the gutter when biology rules?!? When the actions are done consciously, without the effects of sex hormones or omega's pheromone on the alpha, then when Ian had found Noah and induced him into heat, and then forced him to have sex, then yes, he can be held accountable. But not during their ruts. Because they have no control over that.
Be very honest rn. Can you say the same if this was the villain or second lead doing the exact same thing to the protagonist under the same conditions? Would you make up the sameeeee excuse of it was not the ML rn?
If this is the case then you're saying every single rutting is essentially raping the omega and the onus is on him?!? You're going to arrest every single alpha and inject and monitor them round the clock so that they will never be able to do this?!? I see what you're getting at. And you're right, if you're thinking that it's from the perspective of a relationship, then yes, you're right.
But then that just makes the alpha the culprit because he's an alpha, and omegas will always be victim....
What are you even saying? Did you not see the uke fucking running away towards the door the moment he saw his nose bleed and this rapist snatching him by the collar and then forcing the sex? Its literally the first panel of the latest chapter.
When did i say that if the consent is there then it's rape? If the consent is there from both the parties then no matter what, the influence of pheromones or not, THE CONSENT IS THERE AND ITS NOT RAPEEEEE.
When did I ever say that in any case Rut sex is rape? When did I ever fricking say that?
Please read what I said properly.
I clearly said that this is rape, because seme just raped him without his consent and that's my problem. That's the entire thing mygosh. Just coz you're in your rut it doesn't make rape ethical. That's my entire point. And the way you defended the same saying it's not rape COZ he's an alpha under rut then would you defend a villain or even the second lead if they rape the protagonist IF THEY HAVE THE EXCUSE OF RUT TOO?
PLEASE read what I said.
No you're right. I am torn about that. So then every rutting alpha is a menace to society, because they can accidentally rape an omega?!? So then yes, that would put Ian into that category. But then, it would have seemed unfair that they are held liable for when they are not in control of themselves during their ruts. This is where I am torn because you're right if it is without consent it is rape, but if it is in the alpha to rape then having to held accountable for something they cannot control is....
Idk this convo is giving me a headache. I'm just trying to enjoy the story withkit having to go into the whole moral dilemma when they're not even people. Whatever. This blows.
Okay I understand. Not continuing any discussion further. Just this chapter didn't sit right w me that's all. Nothing again you at all and I hope you can enjoy further chapters too. Ik this dragged on for long. I understood your point so it's okay. Hope you have a good time reading many more stories here. No hard feelings at all.
Okay rapist. Hop you die