My absolute same thoughts sex scenes are just not even exciting enough to take away the pain of the plot （￣へ￣）
Actually, the ML listened to the MC. Idk why everyone is conviently forgetting that the MC asked for it several times despite the ML expressing doubts about treating him like that repeatedly.
The MC is a dumbass.
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Man was told to stop coming in every day and bothering him yet he kept coming, he kept touching MC and putting his hands on him when he told him not to, kept being pushy when MC was pushing him away. Ultimately in the scene you're talking about, it was extremely obvious that it wasn't an enthusiastic "yes" from MC. Very big "just use me to get this over with so you stop bothering me" language, I was so shocked and surprised ML even went through with it? Especially since he is infatuated and kept saying he wanted to cherish him??
I do agree MC is a dumbass though, but he has trauma and trust issues which makes it slightly more understandable
I will refresh your memory.
First of all, MC isn't mentally impaired in any way shape or form and police exists. With that being said:
1. Him kissing the ML first (even surprising him) and then saying "then teach me what you really meant by showering me with love" in chapter 8 counts as consent.
2. "I can't be the only one receiving love now, can I?" (ch 8) from the uke before mastubarting ML (who was reluctant at first) is a consensual act.
3. "Come back anytime you want to blow your load. Consider it a part of my services until we get your name removed" (ch 8) is consent to sexual acts.
4. "Were you that excited to bang me?" (ch8) => he knew what they were going to the hotel for and wasn't forced to.
5. The uke willingly lied down without coercion or threat. He was free not to do it or leave.
6. Uke's response to ML saying he just wants to hold back and treat him right, drink wine and go to bed : "cut the crap, just do what you actually want. Isn't this the reason you brought me here?" (ch 8) given the 4 quotes above, he is refering to sex, therefore giving consent.
7. To ML being gentle and taking time, uke said: "Enough of this shit. Fuck, just shove your dick in my ass already." (ch 9) So he is not only giving consent, he is also telling hipm to stop being gentle. That was cristal clear.
8. MC decided to climb HIMSELF on ML and insert ML's dick IN HIS OWN ASS. (ch 9) I wonder how you can make the consent clearer.
9. in Ch 9 When ML was confused about MC getting on him, MC said "Don't worry about hurting me. Forget about whether I like it or not. Just do what you want." Again, clear consent, AND telling the ML to STOP being gentle, stop caring about him.
10. "I don't care if you tear my insides apart, so shove your dick in and fuck me until you're satisfied" (ch 9) Again. Clear consent and MC telling ML to not be gentle.
11. To being asked if he cares after starting to cry (bc he feels like shit because of his own BS thinking by the way) MC replies "No I fucking don't" ch 10
So, let us not invent rape where there isn't. It's okay to not agree with ML's choice to avoid him. But let's not make up things that didn't happen, he gave consent multiple times, inserted the dick himself, kept telling ML not to be gentle.
ML didn't only "go through with it" he resisted in multiples times until the MC took his dick to put it up his own ass.
Amazing, almost like nothing dubious happened in the first 7 chapters! I can tell you right now that people ignoring your words, crossing your boundaries, and continuing to lay their hands on you when you told them not to touch is BAD and WRONG and NOT CONSENT. Does MC come around after being pushed a few times? Sure, he gives up and let's ML do what he wants so he can stop bothering him. And you don't see anything wrong with that?
Girl I have no clue why you're defending this ML so hard, and why you can't understand how obvious it was that MC did NOT actually want his shit rocked in the recent chapter, which is why hes crying and why he does not think highly of ML since he's "just like the others". If ML truly liked and wanted to cherish MC, he would not have gone through and did whatever he wanted. Is the ML a rapist for having sex with MC? Absolutely not, MC did give his consent. Is ML a scumbag for roughly having sex with MC when it's obviously not what he wanted (yes he said to do it, but people sometimes say the opposite of what they mean, shocking!)? Absolutely, ML sucks! It's actually not a hard concept to grasp!
I'm not denying the sexual harassment. I'm just saying you should quit acting like MC is a defenseless victim him here. He never once even called the police on ML and not out of fear.
"People sometimes say the opposite of what they mean" after 10 quotes of consent and even MC pushing for it, this is the argument that you pull?
Chile, anyway. Believe what you want to believe since you want it so bad. I won't waste more time on you.
Bye.
Sighhh she blocked me but I already wrote a response so whatever. @meruemshu I hope you read this because I'm actually shocked by your lack of empathy and understanding of characters and actions.
MC has shown that he's been a victim to men like this countless times which is why he just "allows" it happen now so they leave him alone after they get what they want (refer to dude who tried to force him to jerk him off; he was disgusted and didn't want to, but was going to anyway to get him to leave without problems). Your lack of ability to read between the lines is astonishing, maybe re-take reading comprehension then have another crack at the story
lmao she reposted that long message on my question too
Oh boy, I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
I had a read of her profile to see if I was arguing with a literal child, and I think she's actually in her mid-twenties, so yikes. I can't imagine being that age and calling a bunch of random people in a yaoi manga comments section "woke fucktards" everything about this is so ridiculous
i usually avoid discussions on this site bc some ppl can be too much but i decided to voice my opinion this once and oh boy do i regret it. But happy new year! (Albeit 3 days late)
Damn, some people just ruin it for others. But thank you GregsPhatBussyLips! I hope you're killing it already in 2024!
Also your username absolutely cracks me up, keep on chillin Bussy
I find it sad that you chose to look her up and share her age with other people, specially since she chose to leave the discussion. You could have chosen to let it go, but chose to harass her instead. People like you defend the rights of fictional characters but talk shit about REAL people. You guys are nothing but hypocritical bullies.
This is so embarrassing for you. TIL even mentioning the information she willingly shares on her page (that everyone here has access to, plus I'm assuming her age) is harrassment, who knew! Its people like you who defend bullies (read through the comments section to find her calling many different commenters terrible names and bullying them for no reason) that make the world an even worse place to live in. That and she always sides with toxic characters and goes apeshit on anyone who doesn't share her insane view, I guess toxic people stick together. Stay mad weirdo
preach it sis (or bro)
Stay immature, weirdo
Good one! You're so cool and not demented at all fr
Whatever you say, weirdo.
SaWol is a fatalist. He pretty much gave up on living. He's so used to being around ppl who don't give a fuck about him. He's used to living a less-than-quality life. When he was crying, it was because he couldn't handle the love that the ML could give. He HIMSELF was the one EGGING the ML on to just fuck him. He didn't want the love -making (foreplay) just wanted to get it over with. And ML stopped when he saw it was hurting him so just ended up giving Sawol a handjob w/ him inserted halfway in. Then Sawol went to take a bath and saw that ML had been holding back, trying to masturbate instead of inserting. Sheesh
What the hell is even going on in this manga. First of all we have a well drawn uke, whose personality is overshadowed by pure cringe. Next we have the typical seme who does not listen to a word the uke says and on top of that is a hypocrite (I want to cherish you, yet sexually harass you at every moment possible). And then out of absolutely no where they talk about these names on the body as though it's a supernatural phenomena that has yet to be explained 10 chapters into the manga.
Just an absolute shitshow, I'll still power through and read it though, sigh