yes but no

joonphany January 10, 2024 3:17 am

okey so we love consent king but why are we all applauding him when it’s supposed to be normal?? i think a lot of you read a bit to much of toxic relationship. im not blaming you, im the same. but we can’t take this behavior like it’s amazing when its should be the norm. the over trope are in the wrong, its that that we shouldn’t normalize.
sorry i know you all understand this and im not taking you for bad people but i think its important to say it again! and sorry for my english, im french so very bad at this language :/

Responses
    CabbagePanda January 10, 2024 6:33 am

    Unfortunately a shit ton of men, of any sexuality, don't ask for consent. If it's applauded, then authors should know it sells better otherwise we get Jinx and POTN.

    Miyuki January 10, 2024 7:25 am

    Tu as totalement raison. Son comportement est juste normal. C'est vrai qu'on rencontre le contraire bien trop souvent dans le genre Yaoi qu'on a tendance à l'oublier. Après, les auteurs utilisent aussi cette carte parce que tristement ça vend bien...

    Midnight January 10, 2024 11:10 am

    Honestly you are correct, IT IS THE BARE MINIMUM. THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE!!! SERIOUSLY, But they don't normalize this.. I hardly see "Asking for consent" On manhwas or books. IT IS SO UNDERATTED. IT NEEDS MORE REPRESENTATION BC CONSENT IS A BASIC THING TO DO IF YOU NEED SOMETHING FROM SOMEONE.
    I'm not like trying to over praise either, like just comparing to the other manhwas makes me feel sick, LIKE IT IS SO EASY TO DO THIS!!! AND THEY CANT.. They need to do better.

    joonphany January 10, 2024 10:19 pm
    Unfortunately a shit ton of men, of any sexuality, don't ask for consent. If it's applauded, then authors should know it sells better otherwise we get Jinx and POTN. CabbagePanda

    i totally agree but don’t you think we should find stories with more consent and less toxicity instead of reading things without so much horrible ML who finish to become the MC’s end game? if we continue to give them credit and read there stories, they will continue to do these and thinking that its what readers like :/

    joonphany January 10, 2024 10:23 pm
    Honestly you are correct, IT IS THE BARE MINIMUM. THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE!!! SERIOUSLY, But they don't normalize this.. I hardly see "Asking for consent" On manhwas or books. IT IS SO UNDERATTED. IT NEEDS MORE... Midnight

    YES!! like if we continue to give them read when the authors give us so much horrible stuff like these we would not be able to find real stories about love and respect. i dont want to generalize but i think a lot of young girls ou boys are reading that sort of manhwa and i think its not a good exemple of what they should do when they love someone. because if the authors justify those behavior with love or trauma, we will get a lot of disturb young adults…. :/

    joonphany January 10, 2024 10:28 pm
    Tu as totalement raison. Son comportement est juste normal. C'est vrai qu'on rencontre le contraire bien trop souvent dans le genre Yaoi qu'on a tendance à l'oublier. Après, les auteurs utilisent aussi cette ... Miyuki

    la plupart des bl les plus connus on du v*ol ou des agressions banalisées et c’est vraiment dommage. après je dis pas du tout que ces auteurs sont ok avec le comportement de leurs personnages mais on ne doit pas oublier que c’est tout de même des crimes et que les représenter avec des justifications comme l’amour ou les trauma c’est vraiment pas ouf. on cite souvent Jinx ou POTN mais on en oublie beaucoup d’autres parce que souvent ces agressions sont cachées dans des intrigues comme « mariage forcé » ou « sponsor ». ça devient fatiguant parce que clairement beaucoup d’auteurs choisissent ce parti pris pour vendre mais je pense qu’on ne doit pas minimiser notre rôle là dedans parce que si ça rapporte de l’argent, c’est parce que souvent ce sont nous qui le leur donnons….

    CabbagePanda January 12, 2024 12:14 am
    i totally agree but don’t you think we should find stories with more consent and less toxicity instead of reading things without so much horrible ML who finish to become the MC’s end game? if we continue to... joonphany

    That's a different beast and an argument you could give for those types of manhwa. This isn't a rapey, toxic manhwa so when the majority of comments (on the official site btw) are like "yay, consent!" it shows the author that A. people like their work for what it is and B. this is what sells so do more of it. I agree with you about those icky stories, if this were like a one time thing where rapey ML asks for consent once, then I would be saying pretty much what you are. I don't think I'm quite explaining my side that well so forgive me, I'm agreeing with you but on a different angle

    joonphany January 12, 2024 2:03 am
    That's a different beast and an argument you could give for those types of manhwa. This isn't a rapey, toxic manhwa so when the majority of comments (on the official site btw) are like "yay, consent!" it shows ... CabbagePanda

    dont be sorry, i dont think i express myself very well too but i agree with you and i think the main problem is the way some of these stories try to do like « bad boy » ML but in a very bad way and like you said, its good money and people still read those so…. i didnt mean to say that this manhwa was problematic because its not the case but its the reactions who made me tic like i love this story and the ML is really good, i can say something when he is not. again, its really the comments i want to point at, not the chapter! sorry if i made it seem this way, it wasnt the case :/