Why the MC suddenly just slutting himself out to everybody? What’s changed? Not slut sh...

Eldraco January 31, 2024 8:55 am

Why the MC suddenly just slutting himself out to everybody? What’s changed?

Not slut shaming but MC wasn’t previously slutty sooo this is a weird and sudden change in behavior.

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    nekohime1303 January 31, 2024 9:07 am

    Guess he drunk asf.. Some people act that way tho.. Or WSJ trained him like that..

    sid-chi January 31, 2024 1:18 pm

    Because he is exhausted, alone, afraid and this person is telling he feels exacly the same as mc .....it was literally lick each other wounds
    Something I ask myself if you guys in the comments are reading the speech bubbles or just seeing the pictures.....cuz girl....MC was always slutty....guiding gives sexual arousal....MC WHANTS it to be painful....to not like it, to not enjoy it cuz he feels guilty because of his brother.....cuz his guiding is for his brother, and his brother is in a hospital bed and he is not there.....as times goes and he starts to know and like these characters he kinda wants to guide them too.....cuz they are in pain....and he is a guide with guide instincts, we are seeing he letting his guard down and accepting them.....but he can't with blond because blond wants him to be his only one...cuz blond loves him (in my opinion is a obsession with the idea of MC being his fated one, "the only one") MC feels overwhelmed cuz he also likes him (or better said the idea of being someone savior/only one/ everything....this is literally what he wants to force himself to be for his brother.....but he can't cuz he is/was literally rotting his brother with his guiding mainly but with his overprotection and monopolization) so MC say to himself he is being forced, is just a job....that he is doing it for his brother.....while also using sex as a scape for his situation....cuz he likes it but he can't allow himself to like it that's the whole point.....like he is thinking it all is not like we are not literally reading his thoughts and intimate conversations but yeah we can reduce it to "he was drunk and that what drunks do"....like it was the first time he tried to guide gloves guy out of pity and like they didn't just open up to each other....what indirectly also hints the reason for eachother self punishment behaviors... and why the spanking...

    Deee January 31, 2024 1:31 pm
    Because he is exhausted, alone, afraid and this person is telling he feels exacly the same as mc .....it was literally lick each other woundsSomething I ask myself if you guys in the comments are reading the sp... sid-chi

    (AGAIN) I guess we are the only 2 who understands this LOL(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

    Eldraco January 31, 2024 7:31 pm

    In the majority of the sex scene with the exceptions being like the last 3 the MC was crying saying No, Stop, It Hurts. Having inner monologue about how he hates it? If he was always a horny little bastard fine but that factually was not the case.

    There was never the subtext in the drawing nor speech to imply he enjoyed it up until recently. It always read to me a him trying to survive and endure. I can’t speak for the novel as I haven’t read it.

    I know he’s working but before he only engaged in this behavior because he was forced and prompted to. Don’t proclaim others haven’t read something just because their interpretation is different (it’s unnecessarily inflammatory) just state that you see it differently.

    sid-chi February 3, 2024 5:49 am
    In the majority of the sex scene with the exceptions being like the last 3 the MC was crying saying No, Stop, It Hurts. Having inner monologue about how he hates it? If he was always a horny little bastard fine... Eldraco

    But he does hate it, this is obvious, it is the whole point It is rape, just because you unconsciously/instinctively has the desire to jump out of a building does it mean you as a person as a individual in your right mind really want it? No, again does you not read? What part of " because he is exausted, alone, afraid" did you miss? "If he was a horny little bastard" girl does you have some problem with normal instincts like sexual arousal? (Are you cristian?) Do you think it was not a rape or not painful, difficult and shameful, because his body responded to it? Or that when a rape victim start to use sex as a means to a end, they are not victims anymore? Can you only conceive someone as a "horny little bastard" or as a "poor victim suffering"? in your one dimensional world doesn't a victims was a human before and continue to be a human who had to cope and live her life after? Again there is a lot of bubble speech between one sex scene and even in the sex scenes there are "I should be guiding my brother" and "my brother is in a hospital bed" "my brother needs me" is repeated a lot in the beginning while he guides and while he say "stop" this is what he thinking so A+B=in his mind "how can I guide someone when I can't guide my brother"(I think he actually thinks exactly that in one of the panels...to lazy to search) this is his first mindset thats why he doesn't want to guide them....besides the obvious that the espers are pushy, after blond tells him the truth about his guiding it shifts to "I did that, I put my brother in that hospital bed", "my guiding did that", "if only I wasn't a guide" "its my faut" and "I don't want this" again A+B= " my guiding did that to my brother I can't guide someone" and the complicated feelings of his guiding destroying his beloved brother but helping and being needed by his rapers and them as a normal Stockholm syndrome(saying it with words you are familiar of the meaning being associated with developing feelings for the predator works?) he starts to literally not having a meaning for his life and a place to belong ("because he is alone") at the same time he is bombarded by these people saying he is needed by them that his fate is them and anyone will be tempted by that, MC is not dump he knows he is starting to feel tempted ("because he is afraid") and he knows all his feelings for his brother have been guilty(for being the one who did that) sadness(because his last family is dying) and pain for a while now....then he proceed to admit it out loud to someone who feels the same way he does about his little sister("because he is exausted" of everything but probably mainly of feeling guilty) he is seeking understandment and reliefe as much as he is seeking punishment and suffering (that's how humans naturally feel when they are guilty, it is human wanting the suffering to end and when you feel guilty you feel you need to be punished so you can redem but somethings can't be redeemed) here he finish the process of going to being raped and feelings powerless to using rape as selfpunishment HUMANS ARE NOT STATIC you are never only one thing you are always changing and in the process of something, I think you are too used to see unidimentional characters, doesn't you have real connection to humans? Just because your friend is nice and sweet to you it doesn't mean she can't do no wrong, right? How she seems to you is different how others view her, it doesn't mean she isn't sweet and nice to you it means she is a human being who can't be only two adjectives
    I could explain word for word and draw for you but it seems you can't interpret words imagine human psych but I will try

    Eldraco February 3, 2024 10:43 am

    Let’s calm down it’s not that deep lol. Your tone is very pointed.

    I’m just saying I don’t agree with the depiction characterization and don’t feel it’s been justified.

    You see it differently that’s fine. That’s valid just like my opinion is.

    This is fiction not reality so if someone is frustrated by how something is written (I.e. me) that’s valid you needn’t agree.

    A displeasure with a piece of fiction is not indicative of a denigration of the entirety of the work in question. So let’s not go around insulting people’s intelligence or reading comprehension because they have a different reaction, thought, or interpretation of fiction.

    You don’t know me, I won’t pretend to know you. Let’s try to be a bit nicer even when we don’t agree with someone. Life’s hard enough without being verbally assaulted over a manhwa.

    sid-chi February 3, 2024 5:25 pm
    Let’s calm down it’s not that deep lol. Your tone is very pointed.I’m just saying I don’t agree with the depiction characterization and don’t feel it’s been justified. You see it differently that’... Eldraco

    I am not assaulting you, and if your opinion was just "I don't like how this is going" "mc was being raped and know is liking it, this don't sit well with me, I don't like the message" is one thing but you criticized it like it was not well written cuz you couldn't understand MC psych, them I explained it to you and you still didn't understand...by the way you responded is not that you disagree with me, bc you see MC psych being another is just that you didn't even understand what I was writing,
    I love to study psych and outside of MC obsession with his brother (what again is okay and undersdable when taking in consideration his background) all his reactions and troughs and changes are pretty common response to rape, trauma and imprisonment
    I admit I got angry bc how you see MC is how people see rape victims who develop the "wrong kind" of problem with sex after, (like using sex as a punishment is common in prolonged rapes, MC was conditioned to it....but is also common that normal sex with a secure person feels empty after...and the person needing more stimulus to "forget the world" while doing it) and I was speacialy trigger by "sluty little bastard" cuz of a specific case of a child who was abused and was always trying to stimulate herself (as a kid she didn't understand she shouldn't do it in public obviously) normal people usually understand immediately where this came from and that it doesn't make her less than a victim....but it was always the religious who saw it as something about her character as they don't see sexual desire as a normal fisical response....but that is not the only case like lacerations in the canal in adult woman are not a indicative of anything in most cases....but they still use it in court like it is proof of something if she doesn't have it and it is difficult to explain how this doesn't take the credibility of the victim
    But I ultimately asked if you are cristian cuz I know that against a religious world view, words won't penatrate, is like talking to a wall.....I don't talk with cristians cuz even in everyday discussion like the character of a story they can't see pass their cristian lenses even if they are deconstructed

    Eldraco February 4, 2024 9:30 am

    Any opinion on a piece of fiction whether one agrees with it or not is valid because in the end none of us are the creator.

    I simply stated my reaction to what I read. I’ve made my position of not caring for how this is being depicted in several responses now.

    I’ve also said you don’t have to agree with me and I don’t have to agree with you. I don’t know why you are even bringing up religion. Again this is needlessly inflammatory and grossly stereotypical. It’s not that deep.

    So I’m disengaging from this conversation now. Lol