Sleeping people cant consent just like drunk people cant consent. You cant give consent to something inherently unconsensual. Enjoying the idea of being assaulted LITERALLY is something you should go to sex therapy for. Sleep play is not the same as somnophiliac sexual assault. Pretending to be asleep but actually being able to consent to the act is normal and okay, sexual assault is not. Do not let fiction warp reality, there is already a clear issue in this story with sexualising and romanticising sexual violence. Your partner touching you in your sleep is NEVER okay. Somnophilia when enacted on (as in sexually assaulting a sleeping person) becomes a predatory paraphilia that needs to be treated. Please stop trying to justify whats going on here, being okay with soemone sexually assaulting you in your sleep doesnt mean yoh are consenting to the act, sleeping people cannot consent.
sexually assaulting someone means the person being assaulted never gave consent first, regardless of them being awake or not. while it is under the category of consensual-non-consent kinks (CNC), the whole point of those types of kinks is to take control in an otherwise harmful situation. when indulging in these kinks, communication is vital. you need to have in-depth discussions on when it’s okay and when it’s not, so the topic of consent when doing somnophilia with your partner is already covered.
i never made this comment to encourage or glorify sexual assault. i’ve been assaulted before, so don’t assume that i’m just some crazy person okay-ing assault and rape. i was just informing people on why some people (not those who assault others, but use it with consent with their partners) like it.
you do know that somnophilia/sleeping beauty kink is the official term for “sleep play”.
the whole point of sleep play is that theyre not actually sleeping
some couples go the whole way.
that’s why communication is so important when doing these types of plays/kinks, because if some couples do go all the way, they need to have a safety net in case something happens or when they don’t want to do it anymore.
No sexual assault is nonconsensual sexual contact, a more nuanced wording. SLEEPING people inherently cant consent. There is so concept of giving consent in advance for a state where you cannot consent, it doesnt exist.
To be clear, ive done sleep play before, actually touching a sleeping person is not cnc because the whole point of cnc is that they can actually consent to whats happening and usually theres a safe word.
Im sorry if i misinterpreted what you were saying here but you made an informative comment about sleeping beauty kinks under a chapter that contained sexual assault and never really made the distinction that what was going on in the chapter was NOT what should be taken as reference for that kink. I thought it sounded misleading especially to young readers but i mightve jumped the gun. I think everyone would appreciate it if you were extremely nuanced when trying to educate anybody on very specific kinks like this.
there is no* concept
typo sorry
Thats sexual assault by pure definition, and sexual exploitation. Consent is an active concept that you must give which is why giving it in advance for something that is inherently non consensual is sexual violence. I cant control what people do but i can point out that its wrong. That is all i will do.
Hiiii just slipping in this convo. I never had any sexual contact with anyone, but I do like the idea of someone having their way with me when I'm asleep (obviously like my partner whom I trust with all my heart). I've always fantasised about it (ik I'm hella weird). Ig it's a kink but what does that actually make me? (Skksksk sorry I'm genuinely curious) ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
hey, don’t be afraid to explore and find out what you like. all i will say is to just take it slow, especially with plays and kinks that involve inherently non-consensual things. when discussing this stuff with your future partner, be sure to emphasize consent and safe words and to stand your ground with boundaries. you may think it’s interesting to try now, but wait a little until you have proper experience. you’re not weird or crazy for having these thoughts and desires. :)
no yeah, definitely. i’m sorry if my response to you was a aggressive. i do believe that cnc is a very controversial topic when it comes to sex and yes, a sleeping person cannot inherently consent. cnc to me in my experience, as well as what other people have told me, is when you give consent to sexual acts ahead of time when you are unable to consent. for some examples: sleep play, sex while intoxicated, hypnosis, etc. of course, explaining cnc to an audience that most likely has no sexual experience is a bad idea, and i regret making this comment now that i think about it. i thought i remembered a scene where was a scene from a chapter where Yikyung and Joobin talked about pleasuring the other when one is asleep, but maybe i was thinking of a different bl. i also was assuming that Yikyung liked Joobin doing it considering his inner thoughts, so that’s why i made this comment. not an excuse, just a reason for making the comment. don’t apologize for “jumping the gun”, you were responding to a somewhat ignorant comment, so thank you for bringing perspective. :)
also, my bad for responding late, i needed to think on how to properly respond to you. lol
somnophilia (sleeping beauty kink) is the eroticism of someone being unconscious. basically being horny because your partner is asleep and unable to control the situation. as someone with this kink, it’s the thrill of being helpless against my partner’s desires. of course, it’s extremely valid to be uncomfortable with this type of sexual activity, but i’m here to provide an explanation from those who are into it. (⌒▽⌒)