RANT TIME

twin u were on me abt the same thing the op said.. i think maybe not

damn well maybe you are but idiotic actions don't make you a complete idiot i just think certain people need to consider the fact that just because you think something is "bad" (no one called it bad but replace that w like any other adjective) doesn't make it true everyone has different standards and perspectives

friend im not sure that’s how it works though, because then this will also need to be applied to what you consider “ good “ as well. people voicing how they feel on a specific art doesn’t make them a less person, they just see it differently and that’s okay

i literally said replace bad with any other adjective and the point of my comment will still be valid

just like thinking something is bad doesnt make it bad, thinking something is good doesnt make it good people just need to stop parading their opinions around as facts it isnt hard to do

and i’m literally gonna ask u to be open minded to how others feel abt a series

i already am people can have their opinions but when they start acting like their opinions are facts they look dumb as hell and i like making them aware of that

you’d think this would be something genuinely serious but it’s abt yaoi

i mean sure but no matter what the topic is, serious or not, people who act like their opinions are facts look ridiculous

i don’t think the op was wrong though their entire comment was based off truth, mixing with their own personal opinion as well. it didn’t look ridiculous if what they’re saying does have a history of doing so

you not thinking they're wrong doesn't make them right which is my entire point LMAO just because you think something doesn't make it true

almost everything they said was completely subjective

there’s no denying bl does hold a history of misogyny in their work though, how you perceive the characters lay up to you — but it wasn’t being shown as a fact. it’s just a direct opinion.

most bls barely even have women in them because they focus on the relationships between the men so i don't see what you're getting at. there are certainly SOME bls that have misogyny but the misogyny wasnt even their main point and they themselves noted that it was indirect

wtf are you even talking about if it isn’t based off that part then?? a lot of bls have women involved though, it just might not be the mainstream ones, probably shorter vers or oneshots

the assumption that a character was created to be hated (author might not view it that way), the claim the certain characters lack depth which is subjective since not everyone views "depth" the same way, the assumption that the majority of the readers are women which COULD be true, but there is literally no proof to this whatsoever and a lot of male bl readers on social platforms have discussed that they don't feel comfortable sharing that they read bl due to women fetishizing them for it, the idea that the authors portrayal of the "twink" character is unrealistic is extremely subjective as if they've met every person in the world and an "asshole" character thats portrayed the way he is can't possibly exist in real life etc

not to mention i'd like for you to tell me where i said no bls have women

i wouldn’t say his character was meant to be made well though, however if that’s how you think of it, then whatever. i genuinely don’t understand your point still how are you taking it so factual? isn’t an opinion meant to be a statement on what you perceive as? “ rice taste better than salad “, it isn’t a factual statement, it’s clearly an opinion based response, which can go for what they said too.

the only point you’ve made so far that i can understand is the one about women reading bl, but other than that, im lost. the op commented this from their personal perspective on how realism can define a character, it can absolutely go both ways. there is no right answer to it, but there’s no wrong one either. do people like that exist? maybe. maybe not. it’s not like we can look into every person in the world and make a response — ( agreeing ) there is no evidence on either side so for them to make a factual statement would be impossible, it’s very clearly opinionated..a different word choice might’ve shown that, but i think you’re looking way too deep into it twin

u said barely twin..do you know what barely means?

we're going to have to agree to disagree at this point because we don't see this person's comments the same way