Ugh

Muu February 5, 2017 11:29 pm

So many people are hating on Jaeha, and I'm just here like =_= There is literally no better way he could put it. If he can't accept the blond's feelings, then he simply cannot (for now, at least). The blond needs to take his no seriously, instead of continuously pressuring Jaeha to no end. Just because he's liked him for so many years doesn't give him an excuse to pester him constantly.

Cut Jaeha some slack. I know that most people on here would reject someone just as much if they had no feelings whatsoever for the other person. What, Jaeha's just supposed to give in and be like, "Oh sure, I'll date you, even though I have no feelings for you whatsoever." That would be fucked up. He's simply doing the right thing.

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    maychan February 6, 2017 12:41 am

    okay, one question, and it's not from hate for the older guy[older then him in only two years *roll eyes*] why it would be fuck up to agree to date him? [while it obvious he love him without admit it] so why it would be fuck up to agree to date someone that he like and like him instead of having sex with someone you don't give a crap about? I don't know, I don't care who he date with but at last he should love the other person.
    the same for the blond guy, I don't care who he end up with has long he be happy and love the other person and get love in return.
    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ I don't think it so hard to ask.

    Muu February 6, 2017 12:53 am
    okay, one question, and it's not from hate for the older guy[older then him in only two years *roll eyes*] why it would be fuck up to agree to date him? [while it obvious he love him without admit it] so why i... maychan

    Actually, from what I've seen on this page here: http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/lover_boy_lezhin/uu/lover_boy_lezhin-chapter-2/6/ they have an EIGHT YEAR AGE GAP. Just an fyi. ^^ So no, they are not two years apart.

    Secondly, it is not obvious that Jaeha (the older male) is in love with him. Judging by this plot, and the cliche that always seems to appear in many yaoi manga, he most likely will end up falling in love with the blond. But right now, it is safe to assume that his feelings are not yet fully developed, and it is perfectly acceptable for Jaeha to simply not want to date him. Later on in the story, I am sure they will end up together. But right now, Jaeha is not sure of what he wants to do, and this is okay. If he doesn't want to date the blond, he doesn't want to date him. That's his choice. If Jaeha ended up dating him without first developing the romantic feelings we are beginning to see form, then the two of them would be in an unhappy relationship. Thus, I respect Jaeha's choice of continuously rejecting the blond, instead of leading him on, when really he does not yet have any interest in him.

    maychan February 6, 2017 1:52 am
    Actually, from what I've seen on this page here: http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/lover_boy_lezhin/uu/lover_boy_lezhin-chapter-2/6/ they have an EIGHT YEAR AGE GAP. Just an fyi. ^^ So no, they are not two years... Muu

    oh I don't know why I thought it was two years difference 0-0 sorry. where did I read two years??? 0---0 so it 8 years difference, I thought it was odd they look that way XDD but the art still look like it 10 years old difference. what is very weird to me. if my friend can go out with someone that 12 years older then her, then I don't see the problem.
    if he wasn't "in love" then it won't bother him girls touching him. simple has that. and he won't blush in front of him, don't remember when it was (=・ω・=)
    well at last it make more sense now, he just don't take him seriously cause he is too "young" for him, while showing a bad habits [smoking] to him. good job I will say XD I can't say it a great reason to reject him, but whatever. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ it his lost.
    the cliche plot you talking about is: one of character reject the other, the other can't take it and rape him --> the one that reject him end up falling in love with the rapist.
    I seen it too many times to count XD at last here, the blond didn't rape him[yet (⌒▽⌒) ] he actually act much more mature about it then the Uka. and he let him get married while still be in love with him, that mast have been torture to him.

    Muu February 6, 2017 2:10 am
    oh I don't know why I thought it was two years difference 0-0 sorry. where did I read two years??? 0---0 so it 8 years difference, I thought it was odd they look that way XDD but the art still look like it 10 y... maychan

    As I said previously, we are beginning to see romantic feelings form. Just because Jaeha has blushed like, once, and simply stared whilst the blond was being confessed to, does not mean he is entirely in "love" with him yet. While I do think some of his reasoning for rejecting him is because of their age difference and obvious difference in maturity, I also think it is simply because Jaeha does not have feelings for the blond at this point in time.

    I'm not talking about that cliche, actually. There are several cliches that occur in yaoi, and the one I was meaning to hint at is the one where a romantic relationship starts between two people that would otherwise never happen. In real life, Jaeha would most likely never fall in love with the blond, given his outward persistence, and almost clingy/desperate like nature. But because this is a common trope in not just yaoi, but other romance genres as well, it is entirely possible for the somewhat off-putting qualities the blond has right now to be overlooked.

    The blond (the seme) actually seems far more immature, in my opinion. Simply because he still has not gotten over his crush from so many years ago, on top of the fact that he has been quite a bother to Jaeha. If this were real life, the blond would be told to move on, and find someone else. But to each their own, not everyone thinks this way. ^^

    maychan February 6, 2017 2:35 am
    As I said previously, we are beginning to see romantic feelings form. Just because Jaeha has blushed like, once, and simply stared whilst the blond was being confessed to, does not mean he is entirely in "love"... Muu

    I think Jaeha love him even before while they grow up together and that's why he start to have sex with no love back then XD that my view of this. stupid/childish? with feelings you can't really judge. when love come to the picture, it not something you control. it's not something logical.

    actually, with so much time of them spending together, I don't see why they won't fall in love. even if they realize it only after 10 or 12 years later. I don't agree with you on this one.

    like I said, I think the blond is much more mature cause he actually honest with himself and his feelings. he's not go and have sex with someone he don't like just for the sake of been in deny of his own feelings. and he's not destructive like trying to mass up his life or ruin his marriage or rape him. he actually seem very supportive of his marriage, what really is mature since we know he is in love with him!! there is nothing he can do, it's not like it his choice to suffer like this.
    you not choose who to fall in love, it just happen! even if it never work. and some people can never let go even after the age of 60. it doesn't make them childish!! it just show that some people can't let go even if they really want to let go! it just sad!

    so yeas, I"m not agree with you at all. cause he is much more mature then you give him credit for. much more then the Uka that suppose to be older then him.

    Muu February 6, 2017 2:55 am
    I think Jaeha love him even before while they grow up together and that's why he start to have sex with no love back then XD that my view of this. stupid/childish? with feelings you can't really judge. when lov... maychan

    The reason Jaeha started to have sex with that other man was most likely because, 1. he really did like him at first (it is shown that they were once a couple back when Jaeha was in high school), and two, after he and his wife got a divorce, he needed an output to fill the void in his chest. Never was there any innuendo that Jaeha was in love with the blond.

    Just because two people spend time together for years, it doesn't mean that they're automatically going to start liking one another in anything other than a platonic way. I have so many friends who I have known since we were children, and none of us have gone and had crushes on each other. It just doesn't work that way. There is something called the exposure effect, but that is not the case for everyone, and it most definitely does not seem to be the case with Jaeha (who obviously wants nothing more than a brother-type relationship with the blond).

    Jaeha IS honest with his feelings. He misses his ex-wife, who he truly loved, and needs to fill the void in his heart up with something -- thus relying on his ex-boyfriend from high school. He has shown no signs, in any way at all, of "denying his feelings". He simply hasn't developed feelings for the blond yet. That's literally all.

    Yes, the blond has been supportive of Jaeha's marriage. That isn't really something to shower him in praise for. A truly mature individual would support not only his marriage, but his rejection as well, leaving him alone, and knowing when to take NO as a final answer.

    You seem to be putting words in my mouth. I never stated that the blond is childish. I said that he is acting immature. My point is that the majority of people, even when they 'cannot let go' of a first love, do not pressure or repeatedly mention their feelings for the person they cannot let go of. In this case, regardless of the blond loving Jaeha, he should have been respectful, and left him alone after confessing the first time, and receiving no as an answer.

    Anonymous February 7, 2017 8:00 am

    ....I don't hate him because he can't/won't return the feelings.

    It's his inability to be sensitive to someone's feelings that's the problem.

    Eunho basically confessed to him and he said he couldn't return. That's fine. That's his own feelings and he's entitled to it.

    What Jaeha that asshole jerk did, was then asking Eunho who HIMSELF has no feelings for the girl who confessed to him, to RETHINK his feelings. How is that not hypocritical?

    HE did not rethink his feelings for Eunho and Eunho is NOT forcing him to. But here Jaeha is....while knowing that Eunho likes him...asks him to think about a relationship with a girl that Eunho doesn't like.

    He's a hypocritical jerk and Eunho deserves better.

    Muu February 7, 2017 8:39 am
    ....I don't hate him because he can't/won't return the feelings.It's his inability to be sensitive to someone's feelings that's the problem.Eunho basically confessed to him and he said he couldn't return. That'... @Anonymous

    I agree with the fact that he should not have told him to rethink his feelings, but to bash on Jaeha's character to the extent of calling him an 'asshole' and a 'jerk' is pretty uncalled for. He isn't supposed to be a perfect person; of course he is going to have flaws. Just because he is flawed doesn't make him an asshole.

    You can hate him all you want, sure, but obviously he will grow through character development. It should also be mentioned that, again, we don't know the full details of his divorce, nor his past in general. Jaeha is shrouded in mystery, and there are plenty of potential reasons why he might have stated something so harsh.

    maychan February 7, 2017 5:22 pm
    The reason Jaeha started to have sex with that other man was most likely because, 1. he really did like him at first (it is shown that they were once a couple back when Jaeha was in high school), and two, after... Muu

    "1. he really did like him at first (it is shown that they were once a couple back when Jaeha was in high school), and two, after he and his wife got a divorce, he needed an output to fill the void in his chest."

    news flash, people don't start to have sex with someone they like in high school only to get married with someone else after that. it doesn't work this way!! if he really like that guy, then why he suddenly get married?! and now, they don't seem in love at all! maybe for the fuck boy that like to fuck him, but the older one, Nope! he doesn't seem to even care when they have sex. the older guy just using him, what show that he never liked him from the first place. if he really care about him at all, he won't have use him like that!

    "Just because two people spend time together for years", I didn't say all the people will full in love, I just say it more likely to happen since you know the person much dapper then someone you just meet. the whole "love in first sigh" crap is actually much more stupid then falling in love with someone you know for years. but that just me and stories I heard from friends.

    "Jaeha IS honest with his feelings. " I don't like to repeat myself, again if he really didn't care about the blond or like him that way, it won't have bother him girls touch him! why is it that hard to get? and the way he told him about his "broken marriage" don't look like someone who actually like his wife that much. while knowing he fucking like him!!! he know he like him back then, and he still told him about his broken marriage. are you for real?!! if it was me, I could not even talk about it even with my best friend! so yeas...he does like him back then. but deny it cause the blond was "too young" back then. and therefor wrong or some other crap. an honest man won't get offended when someone else touch his so called "brother" or push him that hard to go out with someone else while knowing he don't like her. he care about him much deeper and stronger then he want to be. so his soltion will be that "brother" will be with someone else, then he can't have him. I have to say, he much more twisted then the blond is XD if you want to believe he don't like him at all in blind way, go ahead. I don't mind. but the signs is there!

    Anonymous February 8, 2017 3:22 pm
    I agree with the fact that he should not have told him to rethink his feelings, but to bash on Jaeha's character to the extent of calling him an 'asshole' and a 'jerk' is pretty uncalled for. He isn't supposed ... Muu

    He's not the only one who has gone through hardship. What he could have done instead was to shut his mouth. You face up to what you say. What gives you the right to say horrible patronising things just because you've gone through hardship? Look at the way he said it. It was done so casually with no thought to the person's feelings. That's an asshole move. It's great that you think people should be forgiven JUST BECAUSE they might be going through hardship or had a bad past. But when you do something, you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for it.
    He's an adult, he should stop projecting his feelings to people who does not have connection to the 'hardship he went through' or whatever it is.

    "there are plenty of potential reasons why he might have stated something so harsh"

    There's a lot of reasons why people do bad things. But they still did the act. They are responsible for it. Doesn't excuse the fact that you did not treat someone with respect. He's not a child, he's a grown man. If he did do it because of 'past or whatever', then he should be mature enough to realise that a person is a person, you don't get to be a jerk to someone who did nothing to you just because you're hurting. Great back story, Jaeha...You're still a jerk.