when are you gonna start using them?
he probably won't but go off queen
these ml defenders are so cringey bruhh
Yes enlighten this idiot by defending a morally wrong person, u r saving the human race one insult at a time !!
Where did I say that they were morally right? My argument was that they are incorrectly labeling the ML as a mass murderer based on the situation, in fact I believe in another comment I distinctly say he comes off as a non-apologetic asshole. If I was to use the same logic and argument I would have to say someone who committed suicide is also a murderer because the reasons and conditions behind taking life don't matter. The premise of that argument is flawed.
are you being obtuse on purpose? or is this bait? you do understand that taking your own life is different from taking other’s right? your arguments have always been flawed and full of assumptions. whoever said taking all life was the same? who ever even brought up suicide? there is no logic in your comment.
taking another life makes you a murderer. taking a lot of lives makes you a mass murderer. it doesnt matter what situation it happens in. mass murderer is not a term that comes with specific context. it is literally killing a lot of people in a single incident. which is something he has done multiple times, you could even call him a serial mass murderer. this is not an opinion, this is a fact. he is being correctly labeled by his actions. it doesnt matter what time period it is, it doesnt matter what your job is, it doesnt matter if you were ordered to do it. the only way for it to not be true is if he never killed multiple people in a single incident (multiple times).
bro would have hated being in an actual war lol. i dont wanna be part of yalls argument because i can understand that you dont think ml killing mc's parents is forgivable.
but your logic on soldiers is so stupid. if you lived like a few decades ago and tge love of your life or you father or anyone had to enlist and go to war and kill people there. would you call him a murderer who deserves no love? usually soldiers dont like killing people but in a war under an order they kind of have to. Murder is murder and its always morally wrong but the world isnt black and white, you cant just label people good or bad.
I know that, I'm using YOUR logic. According to YOU circumstances and causes in taking a life don't matter. A soldier to you is a murderer it doesn't matter what their reasons or circumstances are, similarly if someone takes ANY life it doesn't matter they're a murderer, ergo taking your own life = murder. That's what YOU'RE inferring, not me. It's an asinine take, but we won't come to any agreement on it, I'm just pointing it out. Just to be clear on your opinion so I am sure I am understanding you right, according to the logic you've applied to the ML, Ukranian soldiers defending their country right now who are caught in incidents where lives are inadvertently lost it follows then that they are mass murderers in the same way, yes?
this is why i said your arguments are based on assumptions LMFAO. use your head for the love of god! pulling “my logic” out of your fucking ass. let me make this abundantly clear for you since your comprehension is so dogshit my many other messages were unable to help you. i NEVER said circumstances NEVER matter. i DID say taking someone else’s life IS DIFFERENT than taking your own. dumb ass argument! however justified it may be, self defense resulting in the attacker dying is still murder lmfao! you think in such black and white terms it’s no wonder you dont fucking understand! ml was not defending anybody when he and his soldiers invaded people’s homes and massacred their families!! i don’t want to be mean but jesus fucking christ this is not that complicated!
MC's family was accused of treason, it was Heeryang's role to rout the treasonous people, it's as simple as that. I suppose we just fundamentally don't agree on what constitutes mass murder and what doesn't. It's ironic you say I think in black and white terms when my point is the situation is nuanced and there's plenty of grey area especially when considering whether we have all the facts yet, you're the one who is adamant about it being mass murder *shrugs*. If it comes to light that he knowingly slaughtered innocent people while taking pleasure in it just to fuck with the MC then I'd have to say that's fucked and he's a murderer 100%. Sidenote, I'd still like him as a character. But that's my two cents on it and it's my last message on it too this thread's gotten too long and neither one of us is going to change our minds, that much is clear.
it being mass murder is not an opinion lol it’s crazy how you don’t get that
you also don’t need to enjoy killing, nor does the victim need to be innocent. those aren’t not what determine mass murder. its like you refuse to understand the language that you speak.
Oh dam they still going
i love you guys completely miss each other's point lol.
one lerso of says murder is wrong no matter the circumstances.
the other says that despite it being wrong and must be punished, the person who does it is not always a bad person.
no one will win this fight lol
that’s literally not it but ok lol
no it is. what youre trying to prove is that hye rang is a horrible person because he killed people under orders.
you keep trying to say that murder is wrong. we get it honey. we know it is
i’m not sure why i never saw this message. obviously i would hate being in an actual war lol??? i literally said it in this thread but i never said that circumstances never matter. but just being a soldier does not make every kill justified? like i said before ml was not defending anybody, possible reason is not reason enough to invade someone’s home and kill their family. we still don’t even know if their accusations were true.
well he is so yeah you got me lol :)
i really don’t care about this piece of shit’s sob story i just want mc to get his revenge