Someone gets it!!
Someone needs to do the thinking!! You either get Isagi stans saying the same thing, weird Isagi harem shippers, or people that don't wanna acknowledge that the Kaiser & Ness trauma bond is genuinely complex and deeper than it seems. WHERE ARE THE LORE DISCUSSERSS
RIGHT And I honestly think that because Kaiser has the mindset of seeing Ness as his “pet” in a way he does care about him. You can still somehow care for a pet and also treat them like trash. That’s how I see it, anyway. But whatver I’m just rambling.
What lore it’s been obvious he treats ness like shit. Y’all always want to deepen their relationship when Kaiser is a manipulative ass and that’s it. He doesn’t care for ness LMAO. Ness is useful to him, you don’t care about someone and treat them like shit no matter your issues. And the time he “praises” ness is when he needs something from ness. I had a friend like that and I don’t get why ppl glamorize toxic friendships. You can like Kaiser for his character (I find he has his cool moments) but tryna make him seem like a better friend than he actually is, is crazyyyy. There’s no complexity, Kaiser is an emotionally abusive insecure manipulative person and ness is a victim who’s also insecure but he’s not completely innocent either.
Also just saw your isagi comments at the end… LMAOOO now it makes complete sense. You’re a kainess shipper. Pls keep that shit in ao3 or Twitter bc everyone hates that ship even regular non shipper Bllk readers LOL
I hope that comment was not for me. I don’t ship Kainess.
Genuinely, please learn about human complexity. You can "care" for someone to an extent while also hurting them. The reason why Kaiser cares for Ness is because he "needs" Ness, because he sees Ness as something he "owns". It's like an artist sharpening a pencil to use, the artist needs the tool that's why they care for it. People are not one-sided beings, a lot of you fail to see that. How you act is similar to how victims of narcissists demonize people with NPD
If hating Isagi harem because the shippers are a bunch of weirdos who fetishize mlm makes me a KaiNess shipper then so be it. God forbid someone dislikes it when people feminize and sexualize a teenage boy and turn him to an "uwu bottom" to ship with "tall buff yaoi tops"
Lol, the comment was directed towards me because I expressed hatred at the Isagi harem shippers. For some reason hating the harem because they sexualize Isagi (a minor) makes me a KaiNess shipper
Stop, I loved the lil pencil example you used.
Ohhh, yeah I saw that too. But thanks for that, thought that was for me, was bouts to pop off.
LMAOOOO ok whatever floats your boat. You’re seriously delusional if you think he even cares about ness. Stop romanticizing their relationship, he dgaf about that boy. And yes most NPD don’t deserve sympathy, I said what I said as someone with BPD. LOL bc your mental disorder is an excuse to be a dick.
I get what you’re trying to say ngl but u need to reread BLLK one more time. Their relationship is mostly transactional, if u want to make it more than it is, fine. But keep it in your fanfics. I’m all for complex relationships but personally analyzing their relationship, Kaiser really doesn’t care about ness, or anyone for that matter and the recent chapters really proved it imo. Maybe he could care about someone other than himself in the future but as rn, he has a one track mind.
Bc I always see Kainess and isagi shippers arguing, I would assume you are one since you’re trying to make kainess seem more meaningful then it is and bringing isagi out of nowhere and saying their brainwash when it has nothing to do with your original topic about Kainess but okay…
Oh! Demonizing people with NPD really isn’t it. Get your issues fixed. If Kaiser never cared for Ness then they wouldn’t even have a relationship now. But I can see that talking with you will do nothing because you’re set on your own thoughts. Calling other people delusional and insulting them for not seeing a relationship as how you interpret it is actually concerning, please go continue talking with your therapist.
If you scroll further from my comment you’ll see me hating on Isagi x all shippers. The reason why I mentioned them is because they’re obviously going to be annoying again and be weird (they already are). Interpreting two characters to have a complex relationship and disliking people that fetishize mlm automatically makes me a KaiNess shipper? I don’t even want to talk with you anymore because of your previous comment about NPD. We can agree to disagree, please go back to talking with your therapist the way you act is genuinely repulsive to me. In the nicest way possible, please don’t reply to me anymore I find you disgusting.
and I will continue to demonize them tf, thinking their better than everyone. You obviously have never even been in a toxic relationship if your junk this is how you treat someone you care about. Kaiser is USING ness. How do you not see that? It’s quite literally so obvious, just take your rose tinted glasses out for one sec and you would see it. They have a “friendship” bc ness continues to useful consistently. Why would he cut off someone who is his personal emotional trash dumpster?
Wah way, you’re pitiably those ppl with NPD who constantly victimize themselves, so disgusting but continues to reply
I don’t have NPD, I had a friend who showed symptoms. She was a terrible person and acted like Kaiser but I don’t think of her as just that because I know that in her own sick and twisted way she cared for me, even if she showed it through degradation and insults. I know how Kaiser treats Ness, because it’s similar to how she treated me. Not once did I say that Kaiser isn’t abusive, I’m saying that he’s that while he cares for Ness in a way he cares for an object he owns, because that’s how he sees Ness. As someone with BPD, I thought you’d know better considering how Cluster B’s also get demonized by people because of how they are. I’m saying you’re disgusting because you lack empathy. You can continue replying to me, I don’t have the mood to talk with you any further and will be cutting our conversation short, I can see that talking with you will do nothing.
That’s just an excuse for them to treat you shitty. Thinking and saying your friend “cared” to make u feel better about y’all’s relationship when it was probably one sided and you can call me a bitch for assuming but idc. I’m not saying ppl with NPD can not care but they don’t start caring about their actions and ppl around them until they really know they have it and go to therapy and it’s a longgg process.
Ppl like us that have BPD tend to glamorize our love ones actions a lot, let them get away with a lot of shit bc we get attached. Imo when I have my “favorite person” and I think I’m in love with them it’s not love, it’s a form of attachment to them bc we have no sense of self. I now know that, idk about u bc everyone is different but yea so ppl that have NPD probably have a similar thought process but not really. Bc you don’t treat ppl you care like that. Hopefully you heal or whatever and me too I guess.
Although I don’t see anything wrong with NPD because the person that has it- it’s not their fault. At least not to me anyway. They want to have constant admiration. And I think with other disorders or disabilities some of them are born with it or diagnosed. Sorry if this makes no sense. So some of them act according to what they are diagnosed with or born with because that’s them. Idk if this makes sense sorry
Learning more about Kaiser and Ness' relationship and I personally think that Kaiser DOES see Ness as a dog. He cares for Ness because he sees Ness akin to a "pet" of his. I think it's definitely because of 1) friendship that he won't acknowledge and 2) his feeling of "ownership" towards Ness. Kaiser says that he liked the soccer ball because no matter what he did to it, it always came back. Sounds similar to his relationship with Ness. Ness is a willing victim of abuse. I'm not saying he wants it. To be more specific, I think he knows what Kaiser's doing is wrong but doesn't care because Kaiser acknowledges him + because he cares sm for Kaiser. To him who was neglected and made fun of for his dreams, Kaiser is some sort of 'salvation' so even insults & physical injuries are "fine". After all isn't bite also touch?
In this chapter we really see how Ness cares so deeply for Kaiser while Kaiser remains with his eyes set on the goal to not feel like a failure. I can't wait for the weird Isagi harem shippers to come here and leave braindead comments again.. (sarcasm if it wasn't obvious enough)