are we rly going down the 'babe ily let out ur rape fantasies its ok<3' route like... t...

Consensual non consensual is a thing and people do enjoy it and it can be healthy. Is it perfectly healthy here? No (since they should have had a talk about some safeword and/or boundaries). But people and relationships aren't perfect, neither is Taka and Yu.

nah u definitely got some mental issues if you enjoy pretending to be raped/pretending to rape someone and it should be dealt with in a therapists office not in the bedroom. and yh clearly they arent perfect?? doesnt mean ppl cant want them to have a healthy relationship

That's kinkshaming :D sure everyone should go to therapy, but doing rape play hurts no one so let kinksters do what kinksters do :'D
Perfect characters create boring stories 8) Tho that's just my opinnion.
Of course you can want that and point it out, but I can state my opinnion on that as well :D

yes i am kinkshaming. not only am i kinkshaming i am heavily judging they are still free to do whatever they want to though:)i agree with ur second point but healthy relationship =/= perfect people. they can have flaws and still manage to work through their problems and find a healthy balance

Kinkshaming ain't fresh. You not getting it doesn't make it bad or immoral. People deal with things differently and heal differently.
They probably will work trough their problems it just takes time for them to build the healthy balance, but I don't think Takas kinks will change that much. And as long as Yu is fine with it, I don't really see an issue. Though I do think Taka should address his mom as a trigger and work trough it with Yus support.

clearly taka's fetish developed as a trauma response from lack of control in his life, not something that can be fixed by simple acceptance. wanting to physically hurt the person you're with and make them do things they don't want to is the opposite of healthy. i doubt someone with that urge can completely satisfy it through con noncon bc that's still consensual and the whole point of a rape fetish is that you enjoy it when it's not

@bishounensupremacy no offense but YOU r being offensive. I get where u r coming from but i can still see that u r being ignorant too. Im a SA survivor and yes i do like CNC, does that mean im never satisfied becoz its not real rape? No ofc not. What i get off on is an idea of it. That does not mean i will go off being raped or raping strangers. And yes, it can be for healthy couple as well. While i get that cnc seems scary for people that doesn't have any interest in it, u don't have to be rude abt it. Or do, my point is that, please be kinder and more understanding. U can't expect everyone to be same as u.

you're making a lot of assumptions when you don't have contact with the BDSM community or interactions with people who have CNC kink. "I doubt someone with that urge can completely satisfy it through CNC", It is possible to satisfy this desire through fantasies, but not all people will and that doesn't mean this kink has to be extinguished.
It is actually recommended by psychologists and psychiatrists to complete your fantasies in a safe space and with supportive partner(s). people who have immoral fantasies, whether people with trauma, victims of S/A or non-victims (etc...), do not need to live their entire lives suppressing their desires, if it is possible to do it in a healthy way, then it's okay. as a psychology student, you should know that the purpose of therapy is to increase the quality of life and that kink can also be therapeutic, as much as reading a book that portray your sexual fantasies, make drawings, create music, etc. It all depends on whether you are hurting yourself and others.
the only thing these characters lack is finding the use of a safe word and establishing their boundaries. to be healthy requires consent and communication.

sorry you had to go through that. like i said, i believe making yourself relive a form of that trauma is self harm but i don't expect anyone to conform to my idea of a healthy relationship. you're free to do whatever you think is best for you

thanks for providing a different perspective, you are making a lot of assumptions from the get go as well. my actual point was that it doesn't mean everything is now a-okay simply because someone accepted you as you are. it's a pattern i see a lot and it just didn't sit right with me

in summary: doing it without a real discussion is bad, just bc yuu said it's okay doesn't mean taka should just go with it. he is holding himself back a lot unless he gets some actual guidance i feel like he will explode and it's not going to end well. aka:therapy

"my actual point was that it doesn't mean everything is now a-okay simply because someone accepted you as you are" your first comment didn't say that and your other comments also mixed attacks on people with CNC kink and assumptions. you made a moral judgment on something very complex, almost inciting a witch hunt. so, since this is more about your personal perspective, what you're left with is to listen to other people's experiences (like Eukid08's comment) and if you want, you can study more about the subject

yes, but i did say it multiple times in the thread including the comment that you first replied to. not wording the og post correctly and being insensitive about it is my fault. i still think people with rape fantasies do have mental problems and trying to act out those fantasies and especially being alone in an enclosed space with someone who gets off on hurting you is dangerous and a form of SH though. and yeah i wouldn't keep replying if i wasn't open to hearing about it