Never did I even say that she's not entitled to give opinions. I'm not going to cower from what she started. Learn the context of this argument first before you weigh in, maybe you'll understand
I'll respond once you write a more clearer and well written reply
Agree with you and the original OP. That's what it makes this story interesting, you have an amount of different interpretations of the characters, the plot, etc. And everything is better when you share your opinions respectfully even if you disagree. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
The KS universe is fictional--a point Koogi stressed on Twitter--and not based on reality. Does it touch on some real issues and draw from experiences people can identify with? Sure--but it is still fiction. I think it's safe to say we can separate fiction from reality, and it's probably healthy to do so.
Yes but BPD is a real thing. Of course we should assess characters strictly within the premise of the KS universe. However, those assessment, especially if false, have an effect on reality. Whether it is intended or not. One scenario is that if a reader not familiar with the series happens to stumble upon false statement about BPD, he/she might generalize people who are diagnosed with BPD as killers/stalkers because the commentator had implied it that way. That's what my original comment was about. She brought a discussion from another post in this post, she also seemed to be playing victim from the looks of it. If she's gonna make me look like a villain then ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I would argue that for most people, the effect of fiction and fantasies on reality is negligible and indirect. What meaning people choose to give a story varies from person to person. Furthermore, such influences could be easily countered by proper education (both in critical thinking and specific subjects) and real life awareness campaigns. It's possible for someone to generalize from fiction to reality, but it is unlikely that all information on a topic comes from that one source, and that knowledge and real life experiences would not change the people's minds.
While some depictions of mental illness in stories make me roll my eyes, it's fiction. Are you familiar with Ten Count? A character in that story has a germ phobia and OCD and it is not always exactly realistically portrayed, but I love the story. The mangaka takes a Freudian approach to the causes of mental illnesses, which is very outdated but makes for better storytelling. So I just accept it as part of the world rules. Also the actions of an counselor who is not really the MC's therapists, but kinds does dating/therapy/something would be horrible in the real world--but in the story I love him. That's because what I chose to take from that story is the meaning of accepting people who have such issues and loving them, and allowing them to love you in their own way--so I see it as positive despite the issues other have with it. But it's all in how the reader sees it and what the reader makes of it. I certainly wouldn't use it in a psychology class to teach about phobias or OCD (or professional ethics).
KS is a very different type of story. I can't say I get those warm fuzzy overall messages, but I find it interesting. What I see here is a complex treatment of mentally ill characters that is believable, but still playing with how to push things and where this could go. But for all the realistic and horrific edges this story has, it's still not something I would use to teach psychology--you know what I mean? It's a story.
Well, yeah. But you said it yourself though, fiction has an effect on reality. Albeit it being indirect, or at times becomes negligible. There might be people who are too lazy and would rely on that information that he/she read/saw. Some people are not as fortunate to encounter such campaigns, or encounter psychology courses for their enlightenment. And I can confirm this because in my country, mental illness campaigns are not as mainstream compared to Western countries. Also, in our country, our curriculum doesn't include psychology in elementary school or high school. So unless we take a course in Psychology in college, then it's end game for us regarding this. It all boils down to having responsibility on doing extensive research first, you know? That's why I cannot stress enough that she must be well informed when making comments about it
You seem to have misunderstood me big time if you think that the integration between reality and fiction that I talked about earlier extends to using this series as a sort of syllabus. Or perhaps I misunderstood you as to why you even brought that up
Pages 12-14 are about his first obsession, the girl saying "fuck! why do you keep showing up in front of me!" is the girl he was obsessed with and the girl saying "this is her mechanical pencil, why do you have this?" is someone who noticed he'd been stealing her things, the entire scene is to show how he was being ostracized once he was found out.
It's okay, that isn't how you meant it, i think. Don't let it get to you. (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Anyone who reads false information and takes it to heart has to bear that mistake on their own and will be corrected eventually... Just because someone reads something online doesn't mean they're immediately going to assume it's right either... At least i don't...
page 14 is his parents reacting to him being found out that he was stalking the girl he first crushed on, a restraining order was placed on him and his father was all like: Cash me out side, how bout dat?
In other words, like i said, 2 instances: the girl and sangwoo.
Hey, i hope i didn't come across too aggressive, i'm not trying to be a dick and i do respect your opinion, i just like to debate.
I think it shows otherwise. But if you want to deny that Bum had a history of stalking outside of Sangwoo and his classmate, fine. We already agreed to disagree anyways.
Okay, bye i guess?
...... I treat YoonBum as a victim at first. "Borderline personality disorder" makes sense'; It contributes of why he is not...........