fucking virgins/minors/sensitive bitches gtfo if you cant tell the difference between Roug...

So dooshik not listening to jooha and continuing to plow into him even though he was told to stop isn't rape . . . Okay

They seriously suck the joy out of everything! How do they not get tired always complaining about some bs like whiny lil bitches. I honestly wish they could distinguish the difference.. but they’re living in lala land

My brother, have you felt another persons touch? If so, do you use consent? Like why do Yaoi’s need to have rape and SA for people to like them, feels pretty problematic

+this isn't real so they don't have to take it seriously

thw fact that there was already consent in the beginning should be a dead giveaway to you. there are different ways to tell when the person is in pain or not when they say the word "Stop". For this case in Dooshik and Jooha, it's overwhelming stimulation. If Dooshik does stop out of nowhere, leaving Jooha unfulfilled, now who is to blame in that situation then? Ive read years of yaoi and it's been so tricky to tell but ive learned so much trying to distinguish if it has crossed the line of SA or not. You lots have been throwing the word R*pe loosely, doyou even know that if you falsely accuse someone for r*pe, that's a crime?!

im saying if you don't like them then look for something else like fucking FLUFF or Shonen Ai.

Yes he consented in the beginning but he wanted to stop later. Dude was literally running away from dooshik at the end of the chapter. Dooshik could've slowed down or asked if he was okay but he just kept going harder. He was like "oh your body reacted so it must mean you're really enjoying this"

womp womp

I mean, he thought he was pissing himself with all that leaking so… ofc the innate need to go there would come up. No one has leaked as much as Jooha did, the whole bed is soaked lmao

you can take back consent you kknow that right? because it seems like u don’t wtf … running away because you’re scared bc of your partner is called rape. and for the first time of my life imma say this but it’s fiction so who gives a fuck about falsely accuse someone bruh

Absolutely not. Rough sex is something you talk about with your partner beforehand. You don't just go into rough sex with someone who mentally is a virgin and you didn't talk with them about what the limits are. The ONLY time it's OK to keep going during sex after someone says 'STOP', is when you've talked to your partner about what you want before enganging in rough sex, etc. and you have a safeword besides 'STOP'. There is no other time it's OK. It can be a very enjoyable experience when there is clear consent on both sides and I understand this is a manga and not real life, but it's important not to distinguish what is consensual and what is not.

he ran away to the bathroom cuz he thought he needed to take a bucket load of piss, try again.

And yeah, i actually do agree that this is just fiction. im just pointing out to all the people who ruin it for us cuz all they talk about is rape rape rape like obvsly, this is yaoi, go read something else

i get what you mean but if we talk about in jooha and dooshiks scenario, NEITHER of them actually talked about it first so yeah WHO DO WE BLAME HERE?

even if Dooshik says that he was tryna hold it in for too long and this was the moment that broke him and went all wild, who is Jooha to assume anyways that this was gonna turn out smoothly?

and even before the sex, Jooha was already expecting for Dooshik to make the first move, so where is the communication there?

so he should’ve let him go to the bathroom ? he literally cried and begged him to stop it’s his first time???

Dooshik knows its just overstimulation and he could take care of it, he doesnt care if squirted everywhere on bed. he knew that at the end of the sex the outcome is juat Jooha getting embarrassed for wetting the bed like big Whoop so what? He just make sures that he isn't hurting him in anyways

rape

Have you only read BL without consent or something? There's SOOO many BLs with consent in them. This manhwa has been consensual up until this moment, that's why so many people are disappointed with this chapter, and that's okay. You can like it, you don't have to hate this manga bc of this chapter (I don't), but seeing you make such bad excuses as to why what Dooshik did was okay, it's slightly concerning. I don't judge anyone for reading anything, even if it's not morally right (it's fiction, not real life so it's not hurting anyone), but I HATE when people try to justify shitty behavior. Dooshik was wrong. Yes, you can still like him and this manhwa. I feel like you might need to get more educated in what consent is ACTUALLY like, because if you believe what you've typed here, it's completely wrong and skewed.

blah blah blah have you actually read the other stuff i typed, you judge too quickly too.

Listen i dont justify rape like you all assumed in my statements here, i dont justify the monsters in real like. the only reason why im saying all these confidently is because this type of plots have been written multiple times, when i said ive read yaoi for over 2 decades, i meant it, ive seen this unfold countless times and in the end of the sex, low and behold both of them are fine and yall are just over-reacting.

and yes ive real other BLs
Shonen Ai, Fluff, there is a whole category of it that ive read. My favorite, being FANGS is actually really cutez you should read it.

Anyways since we are talking about Yaoi, whether yall like it or not, sadly for over the years it has always end up in these type of plots, like im not the author, i just read them. Idek what goes in their heads why it alwaya ends up like that.
but that's why im telling yall, if yall dont want thesw type of shit GO READ SHONEN AI/BL OR FLUFF. NOT YAOI. ITS A DIFFERENT GENRE FOR GOD SAKE

Standards for consent has changed since back then though. I'm also an og BL reader, been reading for 13 years, so of course I know what you're talking about.

If you had said it isn't as bad as other manga/manhwa, I'd totally agree with you because it definitely isn't. But the way you explain it feels as if you're excusing Dooshik actions, when he clearly went over the line. Granted, maybe you haven't read the upcoming chapters, I might have so I have a little more context than you haha.

Yaoi (or shounen ai) isn't a real word to use here, the actual correct way to define the genre is BL. BL can be anything, doesn't have to be fluff. You do realize it's very much possible to write a darker or more fucked up story WITH consent between the main couple still right? Saying "just stay away from yaoi!" doesn't make much sense here. How is someone supposed to know if a story contains rape or sexual assault before reading it? It's okay to criticize it. I don't agree with users shaming readers (we can all enjoy what we'd like in peace), but don't try to excuse it or rationalize it.

well yes ofcourse i dont know what the raws are currently thats wjy my argument is based solely on wjat is presented right now but this chapter isnt my point in my original argument. Im just fed up of newer people who read just to hate.


also my understanding in the genre for the longest time is that Yaoi is more based of more Dramatics and leans towards just alot of porn and Shonen Ai is, as the word describes it "Boys Love" or just plain Boys simply inlove so my bad if we understand it differently.