
You're crossing the line, there. If you want to make a point, do so. But don't go name-calling people just to prove it.
If you guys want to raise awareness what's a potential rape is, good for you.
If we want to emphasize not to describe lightly the word rape over every single non-con scenario you interpret as, we're not pro-rape idealist.
Know the difference when we're trying to say not to downgrade that act of assault lightly. If you equate the scenarios, where, 1) the person was out of nowhere dragged at the back of the alley and was forced to sex, to 2) a person responding to the kiss of their crush which eventually led to a steamy intercourse, you're downgrading the assault case.
I'm not saying it's okay to not listen to your partner, what I'm saying is don't use the rape lightly. Take into consideration when you're going to use that. Because sometimes it can be misinterpreted as well, like, "you can initiate seducing other people but when you find you can't handle it, you'll blame the other person and play the victim since by then you would call it 'rape'." That scenario will cause psychological impact as well to the other person, no? Therefore, know when to drop that word if you want to educate minors. It's not a light topic to tackle on. There's two-sides of everything, so it'll really take a whole lot of proper explanation and understanding. Additionally, again, let's not equate those people or scenarios who have really experienced true assault, over some chapters of a smut story where there characters weren't even estranged in the first place. .
Besides, this is nonfic we're all reading here. Try to be mature and accept concepts like these exists. You're still reading the piece, aren't you?

I don't believe I am crossing any lines at all nor am I downgrading the act of assault/rape. If anything, that seems to be something you're doing.
Why do you think having your feelings ignored by the person you trust and being forced to continue sex is less rapey than being dragged into the alley way and raped by a stranger? They're both just different forms of rape and I can't say which one is worse than the other, though I do agree that there are different levels of rape/assault severity.
If you're not pro-rape, ask yourself why you feel the need to defend people who do it, fictional or not? True maturity is understanding that portrayal of problematic themes is there to be assessed and criticised readers. I don't hate the author for writing this story but I do hate when one of their creations is written out of character, like Dooshik was. Plus I'm not reading the story for the rapists, I'm reading it for the plot, art, etc.
Hope that gives you some food for thought.

I agree with everything you said. I don't have a problem with people reading rape but trying to paint as something it's not is gross. If you an adult and you read that kind of stuff the least you can do is have self awareness over what you're consuming and admit it is morally questionable. That is where true maturity is.

Ask yourself why you need to name call people only to prove your point? You didn't even apologize. If you're here for the plot, I am too. And I understand that the plot has always been messed up. If you're here for it too, then why question everything until now? And why point out people who understand the plot is as thick as a mud? When you yourself is out here reading it? Or is it that you just want to make it look like you're better than us as human being?
Food for a thought, too, an argument or discussion can be healthy as long as you don't start pointing the hate towards the other party. Name call all you want about the topic, but never the person, a human being like you, about it. You labeling other people doesn't make your objectives and perspectives look reasonable.
That's just been the point I was pushing when inserted my thoughts here. If you can't realize labeling people isn't okay, then, you do you. I'm not self-righteous myself, just want to point out why you can't handle conversations without labeling other people as if you know them too well. We're here for the topic, not the identity of the person reading this behind a screen. Muting this now.

Not sure why you're offended by rape apologists being called rape apologists (unless you are one?). I won't ever apologise for that. Not because I think I'm better than anyone else but because it's disgusting to make excuses for rapists or deny that what they are doing is rape.
The rest of your comment doesn't make much sense anyway because it's got nothing to do with my original comment. Enjoy your mute time .
Was it just me or did the sex scene feel a little rapey. Given everything that happened to Jooha