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That is specific to your relationships and those who think like you making more of an issue than it should be. I stand by my comment, period. No issue in getting or receiving head in no capacity. If you are sensitive to that then YOU should impress those ideals/perspectives on your partners. All relationships are not formed/built equally and therefore people should definitely quite telling people how to navigate their relationships. NOW making suggestions in YOUR opinions is okay. People need to respect others perspectives/experiences. But making people who are in valid healthy relationships seem wrong/toxic based on YOUR values is utterly ridiculous. When in relationships you learn and gradually get a feel for what can and cannot be done. It won't be rainbows and bunnies from the get go even with communication there will be turbulence which with communication can get better. But some of these people with these unrealistic thoughts on these fantastically perfect relationships is concerning. But I digress smh. Not changing one thing I said before and now. It is what it is. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Yes, because who are you to make our relationship based on your morals

This is what she doesn’t get. She keeps saying that her morals should be the default of all relationships. No shit sherlock, that’s very manipulative and controlling.I already know that she hasn’t been in one relationship or her relationships were unhealthy as fuck bcs she’s too controlling.

What you're describing is specific to your relationship and that's fine. Other people may have the same understanding with their partner as you do, which is also fine because it's a mutual agreement. What I'm saying is people need to have those conversations before engaging sexually with a sleeping or unconscious partner because otherwise it's sexual assault. You can disagree with that if you want but it's literally the law, at least across most if not all of North America. But I would argue that even setting aside the law, the moral thing to do is check with your partner beforehand. I genuinely don't see why anyone would be against that

Because we have our own lives and opinions so your own morals should be pushed towards us. It’s like you’re my friend and I told you that I loved how my boyfriend touched me sensually while I was pretending to be asleep and you screamed to us about your own morals and shouted how we should follow your own rules.

Our relationship should follow our own rules because it is OUR RELATIONSHIPS. If I loved it, you have nothing to say about it. If the seme loved it, why are you pushing that he shouldn’t love it and the uke should feel guilty. THE SEME FUCKING LIKED IT. If the people involved loved the act, WHY ARE YOU FORCING US NOT TO LIKE IT. Who are you to order people what they should feel in their own relationships?

I said five million times it's ok if you like it so clearly reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. I literally dgaf what your kinks are, that's your business. My point is just that people have to openly and clearly consent before any kind of sexual contact.

I get your point, I really do! But it's a bit pointless to argue over and over when nobody wants to indulge in it or even acknowledge it. Save your yourselve the time, sweetie :(( It's great you care so much, really! But in this era, if it's fictional it's seen as trivial. Although it is.. but still shouldn't be normalized, you're right. Some people just want to live in that world calmly without harming real people yk?. So hopefully you understand, you can clearly put this much time and effort into other things, I can tell you're doing great!! Mean no harm in saying this, kunty!! ::,)

There is nothing wrong with asking. However while in a relationship stop turning private intimacy into sexual assault and rape. Y'all are very ridiculous and extra. If your s/o touching you in your sleep will trigger you say something. If not don't listen to these ridiculous rants about so called dubious consent especially if your in a healthy relationship learning each other's freaks/fetishes. Every, fkn thing isn't rape and sexual assault. And to spread fear is just as bad and ridiculous. Relationship require some spontaneity. And it can be fun learning each other. All this bs on the so called legal this and law this is ridiculous. Before spouting nonsense about legal and law this find and read the facts of EACH case subject not just run away with a small truth. There are always circumstances in those types of situations duh. Wrong/right person. For those who will be triggered on this subject communicate this with potential lovers. The rest live your lives as you please. Put your pitch forks and torches away saving them for your own little strict boring world. I refuse to allow small minded ppl to dictate how I have fun. And I hope people stop letting ppl in these post mold living life. We live we learn. Period. Your morals are your own so stop trying to impress your values of what you think is right or wrong on other's. Your experiences and upbringing will be very different from others based on religions, culture, locations, environment, etc. Most law's are created based pretty much on the same. So stop with your self righteous nonsense. I'm very strong in my mindset, etc. Not at all very impressionable like some of these readers. The experiences I've been through give me first hand knowledge of rape and sexual assault and y'all need to cut it out. That is specific to you and your experiences/relationship if you've actually had them. I really wish ppl would stop pushing this agenda that everything is either sexual assault or rape. Smdh. （/TДT)/

my morals being to ask for consent before engaging in sexual activities.. your behavior is weird girl

am i the "she" in question ho ? you're doing too much and you need to stop assuming shit, that's what gets you beat up ! i ain't the toxic one when i say communication is mandatory ESPECIALLY about sexual fantaisies. basically you're telling me if your bf tomorrow is into knife play and without asking you he slices your arm, you would be taking it like a good bitch ? that's fucked up you say i shouldn't force my morals on others, the same way you shouldn't force and assume your fantaisies on others, and as i said, aslong you know they are cool with it, it's not an issue !! it just has be known and discussed PERIOD.

and fyi, me not wanting to touch/get touched by my s/o or any of my hookups had no impact whatsoever in my dating life i'm not manipulative nor controlling for saying you shouldn't motivate people by saying you should go touch/fuck/wtv in their sleep anyone without their consent. you're literally doing the same thing you're saying i'm doing except you're validating rape apologists ! ts not cute

girl dw i have a life outside of this, it just irks me out how they trying to make the bad guy when all i said is "ask before doing something that involves someone else", like that's a basic step of education

Ohh okayy, and yup u are right so pay no mind to other people!! Sending love and hugs!!

I totally agree with you - asking for consent shouldn't be something we even have to debate. I'm gonna tap out of this thread though because that other person keeps defending literal SA and I don't think they're ever gonna get it. Good luck!