right.. like for me this is a case of childhood crush evolving in a problematic way. kiel is just unhinged by design. it's not grooming but its defo not healthy either. it's more of a messed up, unhealthy situation with obsessive, manipulative, insane seme. actually i already typed a long ass essay in the last panel but i stepped back
Completely agree Unhinged to the max. ML is possessive and obsessive by design(￣∇￣")
Children can groom other children. Literally read a book.
Oh wait more literature to educate yourself.
https://www.guideone.com/sites/default/files/2021-02/Peer-Sexual-Abuse_%5BAPS%5D.pdf
"sexual abuse" when kiel never really did anything to asha when they were children. if you think tricking asha into holding hands is sexual abuse then i don't know
Does this count as sexual abuse between children when nothing sexual happened between them as children?
The point isn’t he’s having sex with the MC as a child, the point is he’s conditioning him for the purpose of isolating him to become his sexual partner. Grooming doesn’t have to mean only an adult on child downward relationship (I.e Lolita). And sexual abuse in this study isn’t defined as it can be a gray area of severity. We do know the emperor lies about the need of holding hands within the palace, but also touches MC intimately (we see him with his hand intimately on the MC’s waist in one scene),and bites the MC cheek in front of his family. Of course this can be seen in jest and it’s meant to be for comedic effect. I completely understand this. But in context with the revealed exposition however we can infer the emperor has “miseducated” the MC from a young age, MC is ignrant of certain behaviors that others have voiced to him at this point are inappropriate. In reality we don’t know if the emperor has done things that MC thinks are normal but are again inappropriate given their age difference and the likely start of the Emperor’s romantic attention. The emperor’s goal is ultimately to become sexually intimate with the MC, which at 13 he already had set his sights on a 7 year old, what 13 to do you know of this age already has in their head plans of monopolizing a 7 year old so that they’ll grow to be their cherry picked partner of their own mechanizations? This isn’t healthy and no parent would rationalize accepting that kind of intense attention from a older child that is already pubescent. I know this is all meant to be a comedy but the tone of this plot is all over the place of rationalizing what is seriously an inappropriate situation for laughs.
Based on your definition of grooming:
- Kiel didn't isolate Asha though? As far as we know, Asha was not isolated as a child.
Even in the current time, Asha has his manservant with him (plus other servants, plus other people in the areas he's been demoted too). Kiel only sees Asha every six months. Asha as an adult can write letters to whoever he wants, including his own family. Asha is not isolated.
- You missed that Kiel's purpose is for Asha to be his spouse. That's why there's all this marriage tablet business...? Spousal relationships do include sex.
The following is based on my definition of grooming:
Grooming involves moulding/controlling someone who doesn't know better into doing sexual acts.
With a six year age gap between Kiel and Asha (i.e., Kiel has limited power over controlling Asha), and Asha having all the external support he needs through his family and others, he is in the position to know better, and realise what Kiel is after. It's just that Asha is written to be denser than lead
Kiel did not groom Asha. Grooming involves a specific intention on the abuser's end, with specific impacts on the victim. This situation does not fit grooming
Wow prepping the person youve seen grow up from children(with a huge age gap) to become your bride their almost entire life surely,is not grooming,right/s
-Kiel does inherently hold more power over mc than you probably think,hes literally a powerful royal family member+the age gap(6 years is a HUGE gap if we are talking about kids and teens,so no kiel does actually have more power over him due to the age gap).Hes a person whose been in ashas life for a long time,since theyve been little hence why he does have a emotional connection to asha,making his power over asha stronger.(We literally see him manipulate mc into not going to stay with his family)Asha may be written to be denser,but that just contributes to it being grooming
-He is in fact moulding him into doing intimate acts,lying about holding hands and kisses like that being "normal" for a huge part of his life is in fact a part of him doing so
-Idk how youve been misguided but grooming is not inherently just sexual,(which it kinda is on the case of kiel and mc)
Kiel does have very specific intentions for what he's doing,this situation fits grooming perfectly
riiiight???
I would hold my hands up if it was 'textbook grooming', but there's *only* a 6 year age gap between them and that's pretty key
'Grooming is when a person builds a relationship with a child, young person or an adult who's at risk so they can abuse them and manipulate them...' By the Met Police in London, England.
I do acknowledge the status gap, but even with that I would consider it: manipulation, gaslighting, abuse of power and overt possessiveness.
With a toxic (slightly trashy) emperor and a (VERY) naive & (VERY) oblivious MC ╮(￣▽￣)╭