The fact that you're enjoying this is giving fact you're obsessed you little cocksucker. You said yourself that you love arguing and that you can do this all day. And I'm having a conversation, just because I keep responding doesn't mean that I want to keep on going. I'm communicating with you! And my position is strong, trust me. Just don't feel like writing 10+ paragraphs over dumb shit like this.
Of course you do, you ride on everyone's dick that you argue with. It's called OCD. Get help for it.
It seems you're conflating enjoying a debate with obsession. Yes, I mentioned I enjoy arguments, but enjoying intellectual exchanges doesn't mean I’m obsessed with you. It’s about engaging in the back-and-forth of ideas, not fixating on the person across from me. You say you’re having a conversation, but then contradict yourself by claiming you don’t want to continue, yet still respond. That’s the paradox I’m pointing out—if you didn’t want to continue, you’d stop engaging, yet here you are, continuing to reply. You also mention that your position is strong, but it’s curious that you choose not to back it up with clear explanations. If your argument were truly as solid as you claim, you wouldn’t shy away from defending it in greater detail. Instead, you default to vague generalities and dismissiveness. That only weakens your case. Lastly, it’s fine if you don’t want to write long responses, but that’s not an issue for me. If you’re genuinely uninterested in continuing, no one’s forcing you to reply. But you keep responding, which makes me wonder if you're enjoying this just as much as I am.
First off, using OCD as an insult is both inaccurate and ableist. I don’t have that condition, and even if I did, using it as an insult is both inaccurate and dismissive of people who actually struggle with it. Just because I enjoy a debate doesn’t mean I have OCD, and labeling someone with a mental health condition in this way isn’t funny or clever. It’s just disrespectful. If you were actually trying to make a point, it would be more effective to focus on the topic instead of throwing around insults. As for your claim that I’m “riding on everyone’s dick,” I’m engaging in a conversation, not obsessed with it. The fact that I’m responding to what you’re saying means I’m interested in the discussion. But if you’re really “done” and “don’t feel like writing paragraphs,” why are you still replying? It seems like you’re not as over this as you claim. (;
It’s clear that you're upset about being labeled, and I understand how it feels to be mischaracterized. However, the reason I called you a fujoshi was due to your earlier comment about defending BL content. It wasn’t meant as a personal attack, but to address the larger context of our discussion. If the term "fujoshi" doesn't align with how you see yourself, I apologize for the miscommunication. However, that doesn’t change the fact that the term, in some contexts, refers to individuals who fetishize BL content. If you don’t see yourself in that way, then that’s your prerogative, and I respect that. Regarding your claim that I’m homophobic—this wasn’t my intent at all, and I would appreciate the same level of respect and understanding in return. I’m not here to attack you for your reading preferences, but rather to point out the contradictions in this conversation. If you’re really not enjoying this exchange, it’s entirely in your power to stop responding. But, as you keep engaging, it seems like you might be enjoying the back-and-forth. There’s no shame in that, but it does make your claims of being “done” with the conversation seem a little contradictory. Also, I’m not trying to act like a "smartass"—I’m addressing the points you've raised, and if that comes across as me using larger vocabulary or seeming over-explaining, that’s not an attempt to come off as pretentious. I’m simply participating in this discussion. If you feel like it’s a waste of time or that I’m “doing nothing,” then you’re welcome to walk away, but continuing to engage makes it seem like you’re invested in this conversation, even if you don’t want to admit it.
It’s odd that you’re bringing up my sexuality as if it somehow invalidates my opinion on the matter. Just because I’m straight doesn’t mean I can’t engage in a discussion about BL or queer topics. Your assumption here is irrelevant to the points we’re debating. Everyone, regardless of their sexuality, can critique or discuss different forms of media, including queer stories. It’s not an exclusive club for those who fit your exact criteria. Also, accusing me of having “beef” with the OP isn’t really an argument. I don’t have beef with OP. I just realized thought it was funny and hypocritical of them since they read BL. I don’t need to be on one side or the other. And again, you’re still responding, which contradicts your claims of not enjoying this or wanting it to end. If you don’t want to be here, you have the ability to walk away. But you keep replying.
Also, The reality is that BL, as a genre, has deep roots in its creation by straight women for other straight women, particularly in its early forms in Japan. Yaoi, known for its aesthetically pleasing male characters, was developed by female creators, primarily for a female audience. So, you can see why my perspective on the genre is valid, even as a straight person.You seem to be focused on shutting down anyone who doesn’t fit your narrow view, but that doesn’t invalidate the larger cultural context of BL. It’s not exclusively a space for queer people. It’s a genre that has been enjoyed by many, including straight women, since its inception.
That's literally my intention, to insult you. And I'm glad that you see it as disrespectful so you can fuck off. And it's a fact that OCD is bad, that's why I said get help for it, can your brain not comprehend anything at all? I'm talking about the type of OCD where one individual is obsessed with the other, it is bad and I'm just saying the truth that you should seek help for it because that's what you have. And it comes off as disrespectful, I could give two shits nor was I trying to be ableist. Once again, you know nothing about me, so I don't care about whatever stupid ass assumptions you make about me. Literally go cry about it like the OP and drink your tears you sensitive bitch. You should learn not to be so obsessed with arguing then, because your OCD is showing and no one wants part of it. So like I said just fuck off, I'm sorry the blunt truth hurts.（￣へ￣）
How about you walk away? I've mentioned that I don't wanna engage with your ass and you ignored me and you STILL keep going, it's like you don't understand what consent and boundaries are. I mentioned multiple of times that I DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE WITH YOU and you still keep going on and on and it's getting pathetic. While we're act it, what's your gender identity? And how old are you? Because if you're a stupid ass kid that I'm arguing with right now, I'm no longer engaging with you because only adults are allowed to get be riled up and I hate fucking kids.
Oh, your sexuality as a lot to do with it, especially if you're trying to act like you know how queer people feel when you yourself are probably not queer. So, what are you? Straight? Gay? Lesbian? Bisexual? Pansexual? Asexual? Whatever the fuck you are, it can't be straight if you're going to speak on shit you know nothing about.
The issue isn’t bluntness—it’s the fact that you’re relying on ableist language and assumptions to make your point. Claiming that you're "not trying to be ableist" doesn’t erase the impact of what you said. Using OCD as an insult to dismiss someone’s behavior trivializes a serious condition, regardless of your intent. There’s a difference between speaking the "truth" and making baseless accusations rooted in stereotypes. If you genuinely believed in the strength of your arguments, you wouldn’t need to rely on name-calling or pseudo-diagnoses to make your point. Instead, you’d address the discussion at hand directly. Insults and hostile language don’t demonstrate confidence; they signal deflection and a lack of substance. As for telling me to “fuck off,” you’re still here replying, which contradicts your claim that you’re uninterested in continuing this exchange. It seems like you’re putting a lot of energy into a conversation you supposedly don’t want to have. If you’re truly done, the choice to disengage is yours.
I don’t think my reply sent the first time I sent it, so I’m going to say it again;
The reality is that BL, as a genre, has deep roots in its creation by straight women for other straight women, particularly in its early forms in Japan. Yaoi was developed by female creators (straight women) primarily for a female audience (other straight women). So, you can see why my perspective on the genre is valid, even as a straight person. You seem to be focused on shutting down anyone who doesn’t fit your narrow view, but that doesn’t invalidate the larger cultural context of BL. It’s not exclusively a space for queer people. It’s a genre that has been enjoyed by many, including straight women, since its inception.
It’s ironic that you’ve decided to question my age while behaving in a way that raises doubts about your own maturity. Frankly, I had begun to wonder about your age as well—it’s difficult to believe that a fully grown adult would resort to insults, deflections, and accusations rather than addressing the actual points of the conversation. However, I chose not to bring it up because it’s ultimately irrelevant and wouldn’t contribute meaningfully to the discussion. If anything, the way you’ve chosen to communicate—avoiding direct engagement with my arguments and resorting to name-calling—comes across as more childish than productive. A genuine adult would focus on resolving the discussion respectfully or disengaging altogether, not attempting to dismiss the other person through irrelevant questions or inflammatory remarks. If your goal is to stop engaging, the choice is entirely yours, but continuing to argue while accusing me of being “pathetic” or “childish” does nothing to support your position. I’m not sorry to say this and I’ll say it again: I can argue all day. Just stop replying and your issue with me will be solved.
I don't know what to tell you. Hopefully it makes you leave then! And I'm not trying to have an argument with you, because you are the one with no life that keeps on responding to me and not fucking leaving, what the fuck to you expect when you keep poking and poking at someone's back when they've told you to stop doing that? And when they react to it in a hostile manner, you want to act like the victim in this situation which is fucking pathetic. Not gonna lie, you are getting kind of annoying, it's like no matter what I do or how many times I tell you to fuck off, you won't just shut the fuck up and stop typing your fat fingers on the screen. I give the energy someone gives me, and right now, I'm feeling fucking attacked because all you had to do was mind your business, but you wanted to jump in something that didn't concern you and you wanted to play the main character. I'm sorry, but this is real life, you're not that.
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Your argument that my sexuality determines the validity of my opinions is fundamentally flawed. Conversations about media, including queer stories, are not limited to individuals who share the same sexuality as the characters or themes being discussed. By your logic, only queer people could ever discuss or critique BL, which is reductive and dismissive of the fact that BL is predominantly consumed—and often created—by people who aren’t queer, especially in its origins in Japan. BL, historically, has been a genre created by straight women for other straight women, so sexuality doesn’t serve as a prerequisite for discussing it. Additionally, you seem to be making assumptions about my knowledge and background based solely on your perception of my sexuality, which is irrelevant to the points I’m raising. It’s possible to critique and analyze media without needing to personally identify with every aspect of it. If anything, your insistence that my perspective is invalid because you *think* I’m straight is more about dismissing my argument than addressing it.
Your response is filled with contradictions and attempts to shift blame, so let me break this down clearly. You claim you don’t want to engage, yet you keep replying. If you genuinely didn’t want to continue, you could have simply chosen not to respond. The fact that you’re still typing lengthy, hostile messages shows you’re just as invested in this conversation as I am, if not more. Secondly, accusing me of “poking” or “attacking” you is disingenuous. Responding to your comments in a debate doesn’t equate to harassment or victimization—it’s called engagement. If you feel “attacked,” that’s likely because you’ve conflated disagreement with personal offense. I’m challenging your points, not insulting you as a person. You, on the other hand, have chosen to rely on insults and dismissive language instead of addressing the actual discussion. Additionally, labeling me as “annoying” or implying I think I’m the “main character” is just another way to avoid taking accountability for your own role in keeping this exchange going. If I’m “playing the main character,” what does that make you, since you’re still actively participating? It’s ironic to accuse me of not minding my business when you’re putting just as much energy into perpetuating this argument. Resorting to hostility and name-calling is not getting you anywhere. If your goal is to stop this exchange, the simplest solution is to disengage. But since you haven’t, it seems like you’re just as committed to proving a point as I am. If you want me to “shut the fuck up,” as you so eloquently put it, the best way to achieve that would be to lead by example and stop responding. Until then, your actions speak louder than your words.
No shut the fuck, what's your age then? And you don't know me bitch. I don't feel the need to act "mature" to laughing stock I'm conversing with right now. I only act mature to people that deserve my maturity, and you don't, so if I find something pathetic or laughable, I'm going to act immature and treat it as such. I'm wondering why you're dodging the question about your age, that's a red flag and it definitely raises questions about your maturity.
Your response proves my earlier point—you’re more focused on derailing the conversation with irrelevant personal attacks than engaging with the actual discussion. My age has no bearing on the validity of my arguments, and your fixation on it is nothing more than a deflection tactic. By your own admission, you’re choosing to “act immature,” which undermines your claim to any moral or intellectual high ground in this exchange. Your assertion that I don’t “deserve” your maturity is laughable because maturity isn’t something you ration out—it’s a reflection of your character and ability to navigate disagreements with respect and composure. If you’re intentionally being immature, then you’re admitting to behaving in bad faith, which only further discredits your position. As for your claim that dodging your irrelevant question is a “red flag,” let me clarify: I’m not dodging it—I’m refusing to entertain it because it has no relevance to the conversation. You’re grasping at straws to avoid addressing the core issues, and that speaks volumes about your inability to counter my points meaningfully. If you genuinely believe I’m not worth your maturity, then why are you still engaging at all? It seems contradictory to claim you don’t care while putting so much energy into this back-and-forth. If you want to prove your point, focus on substance rather than baseless accusations and inflammatory language. Otherwise, you’re only demonstrating that you’re more interested in winning an argument through insults than actually resolving anything.
Okay, I'm completely aware that most BL manga and manhwa are created by straight women that fetishize it. Does that shit disgust me? Yeah, and I hate on the authors too for it. But I can still read a story although I don't like the author and have my personal negative or positive opinion about it. Some straight women portray MLM relationships very well, while there's most that don't and create it specifically for other straight women to fetishize. This one time, I'm admitting that you've actually said ONE thing I agree with, but here's the thing. It's more fun for me to argue with someone that's like me. Not literally like me as though you were stepping in my shoes, but in a sense that you are queer and grown enough to actually engage in a conversation with me.
Everytime a straight manwha is in here, everyone is ready to diss it but if it's homosexuals suddenly it's good the way these people defend homosexual. So what if there's piss, if it's gay, you would think it's hot. You guys are twistee