Internalized misogyny

David January 14, 2025 2:53 pm

I’m a guy (and gay) but some of you have some internalized misogyny. Whether it’s about the MC’s character or her body type. It’s frankly disgusting to see how you talk about her in general. She did nothing wrong and her body type is as beautiful as all body types. Quit with ur bullshit.

And what’s with seeing smut as bad or “disgusting” when the main character is a woman but once it’s a man like in these yaoi stories (which I love to read) it’s okay? — some old case of misogyny and sexism that’s all I see. So STFU!!! Leave her alone (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸

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    Ki❄ January 14, 2025 10:14 pm
    * uncomfortable Me_for_ president

    I'm sorry you had to go through any of that! seriously, and im not trying to come o rude but projecting internalized fears onto fl characters, especially someone that could potentially trigger unwanted topics could be harmful to anybody with body-issues. but you all have every right to voice your opinion/criticism. I'm speaking as a victim myself.

    -- Beauty standards are going to be here until this planet is obliterated whether we like it or not. it's also a choice if adults choose to indulge in it because realistically, celebrities, authors etc. are not responsible on how we view ourselves - like the world will still spin if we go against societal norms or not.. heterosexual men spawn are literally spawns from hell, they sexualized everything under the sun - alive or dead and i couldn't give a damn what they thought.

    Ki❄ January 14, 2025 10:22 pm
    Seen those edits too! Making her bust size smaller and higher like women with big busts don’t exit and it’s not normal for breast to be like that with different sizes. It’s so misogynistic they don’t ev... David

    omg this might be tmi but i literally saw people on TikTok say that the flower girl was prettier and should be MC because her design was better, just to find out that they look similar to the side character lmao- i almost died in fits. I'm new to this manhwa world and i didn't know people were like this omg

    Me_for_ president January 14, 2025 10:41 pm
    omg this might be tmi but i literally saw people on TikTok say that the flower girl was prettier and should be MC because her design was better, just to find out that they look similar to the side character lma... Ki❄

    I see your points and yeah the manhwa is very toxic like misogyny, victim blaming and romanticizing abusers/rapists is a huge problem, especially in the romance genre (gl,bl,straight) it don’t matter these authors will add rape in anything and these fans will defend it with their LIFE.

    kassjazz January 15, 2025 12:42 am

    Agreed. Far too many immature brats in these comments, a lot of them clearly airing their own insecurities and it's pathetic.
    I've literally known women in real life with this exact body type so I don't know why they're acting like it's so unbelievable.

    kassjazz January 15, 2025 1:16 am
    I think the criticism about her body is very valid her body it is in fact over sexualized and out of proportion the artist is literally a MAN. Women are constantly being objectified in media, especially in anim... Me_for_ president

    There are literally women in real life walking around with this exact body type, petite women can also naturally have large breasts.
    To say that body type is 'too sexual' to be seen in a manga is pure misogyny and actually objectifies them even more.
    The artist being a man is irrelevant because if he drew her as flat chested you know people would be talking shit about that too.
    Something along the lines of 'why is the FL drawn to look like a child'

    Me_for_ president January 15, 2025 1:26 am
    There are literally women in real life walking around with this exact body type, petite women can also naturally have large breasts. To say that body type is 'too sexual' to be seen in a manga is pure misogyny ... kassjazz

    I know because I myself have large boobs and most women who have larger boobs do not look like this. She is very out of proportion her thighs and her arms do not match with her body. If you wanna bring up why she’s drawn like a child. Well, she kind of is almost all the characters have childlike features, but I’m not surprised.

    David January 15, 2025 1:45 am
    I know because I myself have large boobs and most women who have larger boobs do not look like this. She is very out of proportion her thighs and her arms do not match with her body. If you wanna bring up why s... Me_for_ president

    It’s not as bad as you guys make it out to be. Yet you focus so much on her body that you can’t even imagine just because it’s not the “most you have seen” doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. And again people talk specifically about certain parts more than others.

    Especially when there are so many toxic and hateful male characters in this story that don’t get enough of the same level of hate like the mc and 90% of it is about her body. It’s misogyny no matter how much you want to sugar coat it.

    David January 15, 2025 1:50 am
    There are literally women in real life walking around with this exact body type, petite women can also naturally have large breasts. To say that body type is 'too sexual' to be seen in a manga is pure misogyny ... kassjazz

    Legit making us feel like she has an extra arm or something. She’s just curvy. And genetics do be making different parts of your body fatter than others.

    Some people store more fat in their arms and others don’t but in another places. And so fourth. People’ are not always perfectly proportioned and that’s okay and NORMAL!!!

    People have widely different bodies and it’s all great. They make it seem like she has this out of this world body type… like what??? Come on now

    David January 15, 2025 1:56 am
    I know because I myself have large boobs and most women who have larger boobs do not look like this. She is very out of proportion her thighs and her arms do not match with her body. If you wanna bring up why s... Me_for_ president

    Sweetie people store fat according to genetics. Some people do have larger breasts but smaller arms and thighs. What are you even talking about? This is basic knowledge. Some might have more fat stored in their stomach but have really thin legs?

    There is no way you think humans are always symmetrical in the way their body stores fat. like humans are not mannequins…

    Me_for_ president January 15, 2025 2:06 am
    Legit making us feel like she has an extra arm or something. She’s just curvy. And genetics do be making different parts of your body fatter than others. Some people store more fat in their arms and others d... David

    Calling out a character that is clearly out of proportion is not misogynistic. Why would they focus on her ex who we all know is a bad person and not the reason why they’re dropping it most people who are complaining about her being out of proportion are literally dropping this or refuse to read this. Also, I don’t need to see the whole world to know a character is out of proportion. You like it or not people are going to continue to comment the obvious and feel uncomfortable the way women are drawn in media. If she wasn’t out of proportion and women have her body type like you guys say we wouldn’t have this discussion and we wouldn’t have to see people constantly complain and express their discomfort but she in fact is

    David January 15, 2025 2:14 am
    Calling out a character that is clearly out of proportion is not misogynistic. Why would they focus on her ex who we all know is a bad person and not the reason why they’re dropping it most people who are com... Me_for_ president

    Okay, continue your misogyny. I see through it though. Hope you heal that someday. The fact you think people should and are always proportionate is an indication for me to not continue this conversation cause God forbid a woman who is lot perfectly symmetrical exists YIKESS!!

    Go focus on her body and miss the whole point of her story and her path towards regaining self love and finding one’s happiness through toxic relationship and family abuse cause you would rather focus on why her body constantly and it’s not perfectly drawn like every other female character in fiction. Which is small and thin and totally symmetrical in all aspects cause that is the more REALISTIC one.

    Done with this conversation. Go heal your internalized misogyny. You and the couple of ppl in these comments. ┑( ̄Д  ̄)┍

    Me_for_ president January 15, 2025 2:21 am
    Okay, continue your misogyny. I see through it though. Hope you heal that someday. The fact you think people should and are always proportionate is an indication for me to not continue this conversation cause G... David

    You’re right because why would I argue with a man of over sexualization and how authors make women out of proportion and childlike.

    David January 15, 2025 2:26 am
    You’re right because why would I argue with a man of over sexualization and how authors make women out of proportion and childlike. Me_for_ president

    Correction, a man who was defending women of all body types, who doesn’t demand symmetry out of women like they’re mannequins. Thank you, next.

    norimak_1999 January 15, 2025 5:06 am
    I'm not shaming women who choose to have plastic surgery. My issues lies with you guys constantly saying that women have this body type when in fact, most women do not. This actually causes unrealistic beauty ... Me_for_ president

    It's not realistic, yes, but does that mean this author really intend to objectify women in any way? I personally don't think so :'> This is not porn, it's not purely for male or intended for male pleasure. It's a regular adult manhwa, which is for both male and female entertainment. Why do I think so? It's like I've trying to say: it's got clear and detailed progress, and probably more so in the future, not mindless sex and stupid porn.
    I'm not trying to convince that this image of giant breasts are normal, but just to clarify that this is just the way of the author drawing the mc, that's it.
    But if that's still make you feel unjustified about how women is portrayed in this manhwa, I'm not stopping you from leaving and never seeing this manhwa again :'> I get it, most of the time, me as a girl myself, is annoyed how some guys think it's normal to assume all girls with over-sized breasts are regular, that it is normal portrayal of women, but I can't even bother to repeat myself over and over again :'>

    reika January 15, 2025 5:08 am
    literally just scrolled down to see what's all the fuss, and I saw the original discussion that started the whole argument as well. Firstly, it wasn't originally about hating smut, but the whole point was to no... norimak_1999

    if you’re talking about my thread we became lovers at the end

    Me_for_ president January 15, 2025 5:35 am
    It's not realistic, yes, but does that mean this author really intend to objectify women in any way? I personally don't think so :'> This is not porn, it's not purely for male or intended for male pleasure. ... norimak_1999

    I just called it a porno because it’s just some smut manhwa to me and a lot of you portraying it like there’s some actual plot in here when it’s very predictable and I think anyone could write anything like this on Wattpad. All I’m saying I think people are valid if they talk about how out of proportion she is and well people are gonna constantly bring it up. You find it annoying or not. It’s not like the plot is deep anyways.

    Ki❄ January 15, 2025 5:43 am
    I just called it a porno because it’s just some smut manhwa to me and a lot of you portraying it like there’s some actual plot in here when it’s very predictable and I think anyone could write anything li... Me_for_ president

    the art isnt that deep either babe

    Me_for_ president January 15, 2025 5:48 am
    the art isnt that deep either babe Ki❄

    It’s not, but I think it’s really weird. How a lot of you are saying that women have this body type when in reality most of them don’t.

    norimak_1999 January 15, 2025 5:55 am
    I just called it a porno because it’s just some smut manhwa to me and a lot of you portraying it like there’s some actual plot in here when it’s very predictable and I think anyone could write anything li... Me_for_ president

    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ but if you think the plot is predictable, not enjoyable and it's not comfortable to see this kinda arts, what's stopping you from leaving :'>> Why are you so hung up about getting the last argument, and going around replying to every single comment about how the right measurement should look like :'> Again, I personally think it's disgusting how inappropriate some misogynists talking like they know all about women. I get it. It's infuriating and annoying and disgusting. But for the sake of this platform continue to update us free manhwas, and webtoons, some arguments are best to be left alone, and if that's still not enough, you can block this manhwa and never hear any news again.

    Me_for_ president January 15, 2025 6:00 am
    ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭ but if you think the plot is predictable, not enjoyable and it's not comfortable to see this kinda arts, what's stopping you from leaving :'>> Why are you so hung up about getting the la... norimak_1999

    I comment then and there I usually comment when people are saying stuff like women actually have this body type because it just rubs me off the wrong way. No women cannot look like this and I think it is kind of harmful but you’re right I’m not gonna argue. I did the same thing with jinx. I did not like it. I argued with a few people then and there, but I’m probably just gonna block this and not interact with fandom either. The story itself is not such a huge issue. It’s more like the fans and honestly most people who dick ride it.