Which makes more than sense… If a character is a Nazi and you defend their Nazi behavior, then you’re a Nazi. How on earth can you possibly defend and excuse something if you don’t agree with it??
You will never see me defend a fictional character who is a rapist. Why? Bcs I don’t agree with it, so why would I defend and excuse it…?
The same way, if you defend a pedophile, you’re a pedophile and we need to check your hard drive because it really takes one to defend one…
fictional media can still influence attitudes about things like consent or power dynamics. It’s not always about directly affecting stats like rape or murder, like it can shape how people see and treat others, even if it's not super obvious. they can normalize harmful ideas that affect how people behave or think about real-life issues. It's not about the stats it’s about the vibes and attitudes behind it, not just the actions. Like yes someone defending and normalizing rape on mangago dot com won’t make rapist rape more but it would def make victim of rape feel unsupported or unheard. And this is called feeding into rape culture which CAN actually have impact on the stats you were talking about
Also I would like to disagree with your murdered statistics thingy cuz it’s not true at all. some horror movies have inspired killers in the past. Like, certain movies have actually influenced how people commit crimes or the methods they use. For example, Natural Born Killers (1992) was linked to a couple who went on a killing spree in the '90s. Yeah, they tried to copy that. Or The Texas Chainsaw Massacre there were reports of people actually getting inspired by Leatherface, and even crimes happening that copied scenes from the movie. Same with Scream
Also if I want to disagree with people treating rape as something lesser evil then cheating I will.
Just because it’s meant to be a certain way doesn’t mean it should be without critique
Fiction is fake but it had/have/will have impact and influence in our society wether we like it or not so let’s not be obtuse and selfish and feed into weird ass culture like rape culture
media has impact on society and society has impact on media, thats sociology for you. but censorship and infringing on creative freedom isnt the answer. Everyone has different thresholds for fiction and what they are comfortable with.
in regards to rape culture, its important to note that most media that actually feeds rape culture is subtle. when something "wrong" is presented as normal in a "normal" media entertainment context (ex: prison rape jokes are found in many "normal" movies)
whereas there is a hyperawareness regarding the "wrong" when purposefully seeking out not so subtle fiction in a porno niche context.
people liking dark romance should not directly impact how sa victims feel and the same goes for victims of attempted murder and other violence. you can make the conscious choice to not engage with the online communities that enjoy fiction thats triggering to you.
on the subject of murder- correlation does not imply causation.
For every horror enjoyer that murdered irl, there are millions that dont, so what sets the two groups apart? the individuals that murder clearly had a predisposition for killing, if they werent inspired by a fiction, they would have found inspiration or a pretext somewhere els.
and you can disagree all you want with people or with anything, i never said you shouldn't, i just think you need to take a step back and not jump to conclusions the moment someone has a different opinion.
rape is a more complex subject when it comes to fiction.
rape fantasy, rape play, dominance and submission...these are common sexual fantasies.
and there is a very big female audience for it, considering that dark romance is a thriving sub genre in female targeted fiction.
and it has nothing to do with condoning, defending or desiring such behavior irl
nazis and pedos are fundamentally different subjects.
if you used some critical thinking you would realize why thats such a bad comparison to make here.
(and you will never see me defend a fictional rapist ether, but thats more because i value narrative integrity.)
Well obviously ? Just bcs you read it doesn’t mean you condone and support it but that’s not what we are talking about here??? Op was condoning and supporting the rape saying the victime planted those tendency in their rapist and feeding into rape culture…
I get that those three topics have different nuances but they’re the same in a different front. All three involve harm and power abuse. If anything, critical thinking means questioning why certain things are excused or treated differently. Mind you those three HAVE been linked, pedophilia can’t go without rape, Nazism and rape have historical ties and has been used as a weapon. Call me crazy and too woke for that take but y’all don’t see it as "as bad" as things like nazism or pedophilia bcs y’all downplay rape as something complex and not fundamentally bad and even understandable/excusable
I’m not saying the story feed into rape culture I’m saying the comment was… excusing and showing understanding towards fictional or real rapist is by definition feeding into rape culture not on the same level one is obviously more extreme but still.
You don’t think it’s bad good for you, I do
I genuinely do NOT feel bad for Yoonho’s ass at all. “He betrayed me and cheated” nigga, you raped him and made someone watch you do it. Nobody gives a fuck that he broke your rapist heart. Suyeon’s a bad person, but the other two are fucking sex offenders, so yeah, I’m choosing the cheater who got manipulated and raped over the actual rapists. The other two can go kill themselves for all I care.