Why everyone hating on ML?

kyoko-san March 19, 2025 9:44 pm

Maybe I need to re-read it? But as far as I know he has been quite a decent guy. He flirted around with different girls but nothing bad about it as long as consensual on all parties..

There was something about him “stealing the girlfriend” if I remember, but that is the girls fault for cheating on the original boyfriend (in case there was actually cheating, might just have been a breakup).

He has been quite understanding and kind to the MC.. he comes across as fuckboy, but he does not seem shallow or taking advantage of her. He legit seems interested in her and his flirting with her is quite cheeky, light and fun.

So what’s the big deal?

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    Doll ✩ March 19, 2025 9:58 pm

    yeah, he even stopped going out w girls after hanging around mc. i dont see a problem either but ppl would 'hate' on the playboy ml trope when its a straight manhwa but no one bats an eye when its bl.. like what???

    Sofia March 20, 2025 12:13 am

    I mean,didn't he sleep with her while she was drunk and he wasn't? That's not exactly good guy behavior

    vee :P March 20, 2025 12:18 am
    yeah, he even stopped going out w girls after hanging around mc. i dont see a problem either but ppl would 'hate' on the playboy ml trope when its a straight manhwa but no one bats an eye when its bl.. like wha... Doll ✩

    Right!! The double standard is insane

    kyoko-san March 20, 2025 2:17 am
    I mean,didn't he sleep with her while she was drunk and he wasn't? That's not exactly good guy behavior Sofia

    You make it sound like he got her drunk and coerced her into sex. That was not the case at all, she got drunk herself and came onto a guy that has been flirting with her. She knew what she was doing..
    And at least in my experience being drunk doesn’t really take away your capacity of decision, it just eases you into it. Unless you are spiked or have someone trying to convince you to do something to which you are indeed more vulnerable. None of that was the case.

    I personally didn’t get red flags from him yet

    Sofia March 20, 2025 7:59 am

    Girl...what are you even saying.You don't NEED to make someone drunk yourself to take advantage of someone.The girl was CLEARLY very drunk,she was barely able to walk herself and she was in emotional distress.You see,even if you're able to make choices in that state they're almost NEVER the right ones,and a decent person would know that.And he still flirted with her,he was the one who "offered"to help her,and let's be real,he didn't mean help as in"let me help you get home safe"SO,he still took advantage of a person who wasn't in the state to make choices for themselves,and saying things like"she chose to get drunk"is the same as victim blaming."She chose to walk down that alley,she chose to wear that skirt, that's why that happened to her".Bruh.And she literally forgot what happened the night before,she only gradually regained her memories in the upcoming days, THAT'S how drunk she was.So let's not kid ourselves by saying "she wasn't that drunk".And your experience doesn't count shit cause not everyone is the same,and you excusing his behavior is disgusting!hope that helped!

    kyoko-san March 20, 2025 9:00 am
    Girl...what are you even saying.You don't NEED to make someone drunk yourself to take advantage of someone.The girl was CLEARLY very drunk,she was barely able to walk herself and she was in emotional distress.Y... Sofia

    Sofia, sorry if that touched a sensitive or personal spot for you. I do take abuse seriously, don’t mean to downplay it. I was not trying to victim blame at all, trust me I know victim blaming. Also what I meant with she chose to get drunk was that he was not the one purposefully creating an illicit situation, not that she is not allowed to drink or “had something coming”. I was just explaining how I perceived this situation when reading it; a bit more lightly. But let me revise it; I understand what you are saying. If she was intoxicated to a point she cannot make a clear, informed decision her consent becomes invalid. I also didn’t feel that the day after she felt like a victim, she was embarrassed about what she did therefore I didn’t perceive the situation as victimization, however he had no way of actually knowing that so you make a strong point.
    About the offering help, you don’t know his intentions when doing it, I’m actually glad he did. Would you rather have her going home alone in that state risking getting hurt by someone with worse intentions?
    But yeah, in sum; let’s not cross that grey area and wait for sober consent.

    Sofia March 20, 2025 10:26 am

    I'm sorry too for overreacting,It's a bit of a sensitive topic and even if it's fiction I tend to take these type of topics seriously.I appreciate you taking time to argument your answer kindly even though I was quite harsh in my response.And I do recognize that he did good by taking her home,my point was just that the way he phrased it was clearly him making a move on her,like"do you want me to help you forget about your problem by doing something with me"kinda thing.Glad we cleared that up though.Hope u have a good day