Idgaf

Soup-King April 11, 2025 5:12 pm

IDC I'm still waiting for them to arrest that criminal. Stockholm syndrome is very real and the ppl calling the MC dumb, 1.don't get how abusive relationships work 2. Dont understand how much gaslighting can affect someone. Just cuz a story has sex don't make it a romance.

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    Justme April 17, 2025 7:10 pm

    Its not recognized as an mental disorder in DSM-5, its
    Im unsure whether the term oversimplifies or pathologizes complex emotional responses in extreme scenarios, but its smth very complex.
    The best stories usually show the psychological depth and emotional confusion involved, not just “they fell in love because they were trapped together.”


    I asked chatgtp and honestly agree. Its complex, emotions born in “healthy or normal situations” can be just as fake. Emotions will always be very complex. Now is this relationship stable? No
    Do they need help? Yes.
    The perpetrator is a victim himself, stockholm syndrome too.
    He adapted a survival strategy too, connecting with his abuser to understand him and so she would recgonize and love him.
    But was his love for him mom fake? No. He loved his mom. She was far gone to see that.

    Idgaf too, i wanna see them smile. I believe it has been tough for both, life has been horrible for both.

    Soup-King April 17, 2025 7:18 pm

    This is a decent argument but I'm sorry I have extremely little trust in anyone who uses chatgtp or really any AI for information. There also comes a point where a trumatizing past cannot excuse current actions. I'm just saying I'd rather he get justice in this scenario than anything else, personally I really like this as a thriller.

    Justme April 17, 2025 9:04 pm
    This is a decent argument but I'm sorry I have extremely little trust in anyone who uses chatgtp or really any AI for information. There also comes a point where a trumatizing past cannot excuse current actions... Soup-King

    Interesting how you think any other search engine you use daily is different from AI, but you do you. Im not sure how you measure the point beyond which there is no salvation,i guess you have your ways.

    The thing is, what about his justice? He was done harm too, who gets blamed for that? We just ignore that now?

    Because you might think its just about blaming and excusing, but to me he was also just a child who was failed and made into this “monster” you cant excuse anymore. His whole life reduced to a good thriller you enjoy.

    Its just fiction, but its totally normal we all take it and process it differently.
    I will assure you that im aware his behaviour is wrong.
    The lines blur in fiction. Only for my fictional characters xp

    Soup-King April 17, 2025 11:45 pm

    First of all chatgtp is notorious for being extremely harmful to the environment, plagiarizing, and having straight up wrong information because AI does not work the same as normal search engines. Second of all for a work of fiction it seems you sure like to treat them as real. Just cuz he has a tragic past doesn't mean he necessarily needs to have some sort of justice or redemption. We already know the blame for his past fell on his parents and we know instead of getting help (he has money it was accessible to him) he instead became obsessive. He's not just some "child" who doesn't know what he's doing. He knows what he's done is wrong. You seem really adverse to my OPINION he should be brought to justice. All I ever said was I wanted him to pay for his crimes and that I didn't like him.

    Mikomikomiko April 20, 2025 2:27 am
    Interesting how you think any other search engine you use daily is different from AI, but you do you. Im not sure how you measure the point beyond which there is no salvation,i guess you have your ways. The th... Justme

    Biiiiiitch I really love your replies <3 you are so right.
    About chatgpt it's clearly you didn't ask for information but for an analysis about feelings.
    I think that, in this case, that is fiction, we can be able to be not so logical and realistic, and we can fly through the story.
    This manhwa is a masterpiece imo.
    I LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS STORY. I already read it so I don't want to spoil you jic but what I love the most is the way I was trapped in a bubble and then the author (the real one) just pop it. And the again I was trapped in the same bubble. I just love this story and I love both characters SO MUCH.

    Justme April 20, 2025 11:52 am
    Biiiiiitch I really love your replies <3 you are so right. About chatgpt it's clearly you didn't ask for information but for an analysis about feelings.I think that, in this case, that is fiction, we can be ... Mikomikomiko

    (≧∀≦) i feel the same, its a brilliant story , i love love them tooooooooo. I think emotions are the most complicated thing to explain or make sense of. And to read a story that makes you wonder and wonder its amazing.
    You can read the cutest fluffy story and not question feelings cause of course they must be real, but its also thrilling and somehow heartwarming to read a story where two broken people try to see eachother even if its hard,cause they lack the healthy mechanisms.
    Cant wait to see where it goes ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ

    coffeedrinker April 29, 2025 12:49 am

    Okay so here’s the thing. Stockholm syndrome is not exactly a definitively real thing.
    Like don’t get me wrong I agree with you that the MC is not dumb, he’s being manipulated and abused and it’s not his fault.
    But Stockholm syndrome itself is not… exactly real.
    The origin of the term comes from a hostage situation in Stockholm.
    From what we know from the hostage’s accounts, the police behaved recklessly and incompetently. They forced the hostages to negotiate with their captors on their own, pointed guns at the captors with the hostages in the line of fire, acted very hostilely with their captors while the captors behaved much more rationally and reasonably towards the hostages than the police did. They were held captive for six days, and when they were finally released they refused to testify against their captors in court. They said that they had felt more safe with their captors than with the police, and that the police were a much larger threat to their lives than their captors were.
    The hostages were female while their captors were male. Because of this, and because they couldn’t have their police authority being questioned or held accountable for their horrible actions, the hostages were painted as mentally ill, brainwashed, and in love with their captors in order to delegitimize their accounts. Most real life accounts of Stockholm syndrome follow similar patterns, and there is little to no actual research on the concept.

    Sorry this is long. Essentially, or TL;DR: Stockholm syndrome is a misogynistic term created to delegitimize women from speaking out against police incompetence. These sort of scenarios are generally much more complicated with what goes on in the human psyche. If you have time to spare I recommend looking into the perspectives of Allan Wade and Jess Hill!

    Soup-King April 29, 2025 3:41 am
    Okay so here’s the thing. Stockholm syndrome is not exactly a definitively real thing.Like don’t get me wrong I agree with you that the MC is not dumb, he’s being manipulated and abused and it’s not his... coffeedrinker

    I see, I apologize as I didn't know this fact. My main concern for for the MC and his abuse and how a lot of comments didn't seem to take it seriously. I know this genre and I know how these stories usually end I just feel awful for the MC so I want him to have a happy ending.

    Mikomikomiko April 29, 2025 5:13 am
    I see, I apologize as I didn't know this fact. My main concern for for the MC and his abuse and how a lot of comments didn't seem to take it seriously. I know this genre and I know how these stories usually end... Soup-King

    Well, most of the people who read this, including myself, take very seriously what is happening. However, this story is so we'll narrated that we can go with the flow, we can be trapped too. This is fiction, and most people take it as it is. For that reason we can say and repeat that we loved them together. Because as you said before, mc is not your typical innocent bottom. I've read A LOT of stories that has the same pattern of abusive ML and the most victimized victim MC. Jinx for example is so fucking annoying. The MC is just there to suffer. That is his only purpose in the story. And it's not his fault, is the author's fault. However, in HYM, this is all different. There's background, there's mystery, there are hope and expectations, there are traumas. And THANK GOD there's an EXCELLENT fictional structure. I fucking love this story <3

    coffeedrinker April 29, 2025 5:29 pm
    I see, I apologize as I didn't know this fact. My main concern for for the MC and his abuse and how a lot of comments didn't seem to take it seriously. I know this genre and I know how these stories usually end... Soup-King

    Oh, no worries, as it’s unfortunately like, a very very common misconception. I agree with you, it is always very distressing to see stories, especially ones that go the extra mile to realistically portray trauma and abuse and reasons why a victim might stay with their abuser, responded to with victim blaming.