I never understood all the hate for timid tall dude, seemed to me everyone in the comment ...

Dejected Child May 14, 2025 4:07 pm

I never understood all the hate for timid tall dude, seemed to me everyone in the comment section is just really damn ableist. I mean, is it not extremely apparent that he's mentally challenged?

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    Bunny May 14, 2025 10:27 pm

    For all Heonjay defenders and especially the commentor who said that Heojay haters are abliest (wtf)

    Being mentally challenged does not excuse any of Heonjay's actions. Plenty of mentally challenged people go their whole lives without ever doing the things he does. I feel bad for the circumstances in which he was raised, the bullying he experienced, and how he was taken advantage of by his coach. But from the moment he cut off the coach's legs out of "love" or whatever...... yeah no.

    He's a grown ass man capable of making his own decisions mental illness or not. He raped and abused fellow inmates alongside his brother. It doesn't matter that Jingi was the "master mind" or whatever when Heonjay still partook in the same actions that he did. He's just as guilty.

    Plus something very concerning that a lot of people seem to overlook is that he's had fantasies of cutting Myeon and seeing him bleed. Don't give me that "oh their just fantasies" when the whole reason he's in prison is because he cut someone's legs off. He's fully capable of and has demonstrated that he can make those fantasies reality.

    He's also not some innocent cinnamon roll. he's capable of being manipulative and looking out of his own self interest. He told Myeon about how he wanted to try new things and talk to more people deliberately so that he could use Myeon's kindness to get closer to him. Initially he used this to get closer in the sexual sense because Myeon would be too kind to reject his sexual advances. Now he's trying to get closer in a relationship way..... which leads to us another instance of disturbing behavoir. His jealousy.

    He's so jealous and self serving that he would allow his own brother to be killed as long as he could have Myeon to himself. He heard those inmates plotting on Jingi and deliberately led Myeon away from the tent where the attack was planned. Basically guaranteeing that it will happen and that Jingi might die... what a sweet guy he is <3

    I don't mind that people like Heonjay. His dimples, smile, timidity, mannerism, and crush on Myeon are all endearing. However, what I DO mind is people trying to paint him as something he is not and babying him as if he's not a red flag just like his brother. If you like a red flag character be unapologetic about it, there's no shame in that. Just don't make Heonjay out to be a shy timid baby who's just following evil Jingi's lead. He's a grown ass man capable of making his own decisions and has full responsibility for all the wrong that he's committed. You don't have to erase his agency just to make Jingi look worse. Let's keep it a stack, BOTH of them are awful.

    Peach276 May 15, 2025 3:48 am

    You're really fucking stupid if you're calling us ableist for not liking Heonjae. People who are mentally challenged are more likely to be victims of abuse but that does not mean you excuse a mentally challenged person for abusing or hurting others. Heonjae literally cut off his teacher's legs which is inexcusable even a mentally sane person wouldn't do that for revenge.

    Dejected Child May 15, 2025 9:15 am
    You're really fucking stupid if you're calling us ableist for not liking Heonjae. People who are mentally challenged are more likely to be victims of abuse but that does not mean you excuse a mentally challenge... Peach276

    I'm not defending him, and I'm specifically talking about those who bash heonjae but speak good about jingi, even though he's a straight up rapist. I don't suppose you believe that's excusable?

    Dejected Child May 15, 2025 9:18 am
    For all Heonjay defenders and especially the commentor who said that Heojay haters are abliest (wtf)Being mentally challenged does not excuse any of Heonjay's actions. Plenty of mentally challenged people go th... Bunny

    I appreciate your input, however I never mentioned that heonjae was completely innocent either; you're putting words in my mouth. My comment was specifically directed toward the people who flame Heonjae for being "weird" yet root for Jingi despite him being a full-on rapist who uses his power to abuse others

    Dejected Child May 15, 2025 9:21 am
    You're really fucking stupid if you're calling us ableist for not liking Heonjae. People who are mentally challenged are more likely to be victims of abuse but that does not mean you excuse a mentally challenge... Peach276

    I never said anything about excusing his behaviour of hurting others, you're jumping to conclusions and hurling insults at me. Also your reply is self-contradictory

    Bunny May 15, 2025 10:24 am
    I appreciate your input, however I never mentioned that heonjae was completely innocent either; you're putting words in my mouth. My comment was specifically directed toward the people who flame Heonjae for bei... Dejected Child

    I feel like anyone who tries to paint any of the brothers in a more positive or negative light to justify who their rooting for is delusional. My apologies for seemingly putting words in your mouth. It's just that the sentiment expressed in your comment is common among Heonjay supporters who tend to infantilize him. I mostly used your comment as a stepping stool to address some wider misconceptions about Heonjay's character I saw a lot of in the comments. No hard feelings.