Seoan goes through so much !! My poor boy.. he has to provide support to woowon emotionall...

HEAVY ON THE RAISING A GROWN ASS MAN LMAOOOO

lol, u forgot that he also assaulted the top. smh

No i didn't, i also did not forget that woowon was telling seoan to stop because woowon was worried that seoan would hurt himself cuz he was trying to forcefully insert woowon's giant ass manhood inside himself .. so woowon basically told him to stop out of concern that he's gonna tear seoan without any preparation.. i hope i got my message across..

??? let’s not act like seoan only went through so much. yeah, he had it rough, no one’s denying that but he also did wrong. like straight up assaulted woowon. and the way people keep calling him pitiful as if that erases what he did? nah. he wanted woowon to lean into him and depend on him, and when that actually happened, suddenly it’s “he’s raising a fully grown man”? that’s not woowon’s fault. he tolerated it. he enabled it. you deserve what you tolerate.

also that part where you said “the amount of time he said to wait and stop while being intimate is mentally hurting me” like okay, but didn’t he also ignore woowon saying the same thing to him? the double standard is just... meh.

Did you not read what I wrote or are you just gonna act dumb here? Woowon said stop just "once" because it was hurting seoan, its not because woowon was in pain moron... He never said no to the sex, but he was more concerned for Seoan's well-being...Please up your comprehensive skills a bit....
Actually just admit that you are a Seoan hater at this point lol.. the way you phrased "seoan wanted it" sounds damn nasty.. seoan wanted him to lean on him true but that doesn't mean what woowon did was right either, thats in a way toxic.. and its a fact that he's practically raising him at this point, giving him shelter, financial support and what not...

lol it’s actually ironic how you're calling me dumb, a moron, and telling me to “up my comprehensive skills” when you didn’t even get what i said?? (LMFAO) and i literally worded it SIMPLY. like, how did you miss the point that hard?

i never said woowon said stop because he was in pain, i know he said it because he was worried about seoan. but that’s not even what i was pointing out. my point was, seoan DIDN'T listen. and whether it’s out of care or not, “stop” is still STOP. if roles were reversed, y’all would be dragging woowon to hell and back. but because it’s seoan, suddenly it’s fine? okay.

also, saying “seoan wanted him to lean on him” being “nasty” is wild to me. like… that’s literally what happened? he wanted to be the one woowon could rely on. now that he’s doing it, you’re calling woowon toxic and acting like seoan didn’t sign up for this? LMFAOOO

anyway, instead of throwing insults maybe read what people are actually saying first. it’s not that deep to understand that seoan can be both pitiful and problematic.


*made some word uppercase bec u dumb asf

Wtf are you yapping about now?? Woowon literally raped him in the recent chapter while being in the process of having sex and you are comparing it with the consensual sex they had before?? seoan didn't listen and woowon manhandled him afterwards...so they both had consensual sex after that..woowon practically rammed him real good, it wasn't assault nor was it a rape you idiot..go reread from chap 59-61 cuz your brain seems quite slow to me..."Saying stop is STOP"- wtf does that mean XD ? Are you on crack or something? Get some help instead of loitering around here trying to justify rape with you shitty ass clapbacks.. just because a partner wants their other half to lean on them, you are saying they have to cope with getting raped and taken advantage of now? Disgusting

Tbh the sex scene between chapters 59-61 was forceful, sudden and also due to Seoan’s anger which is a form of stability. If you consider the most recent chapter rape you should also hold this sex scene to the same standards, although woowon did end up going with the sex he even said himself that he wanted to calm Seoan down more than anything. It’s similar in sentiment although not as noticeable because woowon is a pushover unlike seoan. They both have their fair share of toxicity, of course with none of it ever being ok.

I mean *instability

Yes it was sudden and started as being forceful. I agree with you, it was also anger induced in Seoan's part, but through this i think the only person that ended up harmed would have been seoan, which is like someone inflicting self harm to themselves.. and woowon understood that.. woowon's purpose was to calm him down and his stop and nos' were also for Seoan's sake...rape is something done on an individual forcefully without their consent that traumatise and hurts them both physically and mentally and if you think about it woowon was never against the sex but rather he was against hurting seoan in the process. Its because i understood the sentiment that im saying that in the recent chapter it turned forceful in the midway through their intercourse, it was hurting seoan .. woowon disregarded his continuous pleas and even the starting of the sex was quite forceful.. im not saying seoan was a saint cuz he has his fair share of flaws but what he did is nowhere compared to what woowon did.... Say for example if it was a hetero sexual relationship and seoan was a woman then no way anyone could have compared it.. because a man forcing themselves on a woman is an complete act of rape no matter how anyone tries to justify it.. here woowon's act is considered a rape just like that.
but what if the woman tried to forcefully have sex with the man then what? Ever thought about that? In law terms and rules a woman is not capable of committing rape, and their version is considered as sexual assault because for rape someone needs to insert and penetrate the other person's private areas (vagina/anus) forcefully without consent that inflicts injury and trauma.. so now come to this story, what seoan did can be considered as an assault if he was forceful and woowon was completely against it from the starting to the end.. but after woowon confronted seoan he himself manhandled him and then they had sex , even if you say woowon didn't want it he finished it till the end.. now this can be assault for you and nothing for me... But comparing this to what woowon did in the recent chapter is completely invalid as it satisfied every element that needs for it to be termed as rape ..
Didn't want to write such a long reply but your reply was reasonable and I understand where you are coming from as a lay person but as a law student myself I thought people really need to know which one is rape and what is not.. otherwise every disagreement will be considered as rape..

You seriously think bottoms can’t be rapist ? That is insane. Yeah I disagree.

Excuse me i never said that? I said the two events are completely different which you tried to portray as the same... Bottoms also have dicks so they surely can of they want.. i don't care what you agree or disagree... I stand by what i said unless you can prove it logically and lawfully impossible to me.. end of this discussion..

u said it yourself that 'it was sudden and started as being forceful' it you don't consider it as rape? that's some retarded brainded shit af. go get your brain check, just bec you love the art or the manhwa doesn't mean you'll have to excuse their actions?? you all wrote that shit just to defend a rapist? dawg, the bar is in hell.

people really out here writing essays defending scenes they themselves admit were “sudden” and “forceful” like that magically cancels it out?? nah. this is peak brainrot behavior, ngl

having “sudden,” “forceful,” and “not an assault” in the same sentence is exactly what a brain-rotted take looks like. i don’t care if you’re a law student, that just makes it more embarrassing, LMFAO. you can absolutely study law and still be an IDIOT. degrees don’t fix DELUSIONS.

you’re out here twisting basic definitions like consent and assault to protect a fictional character, while sounding like a walking CONTRADICTION. it’s giving “i read one paragraph in my textbook and now i think I’m untouchable.”

hate to break it to you, but in any actual legal circle, you’d be a laughingstock. a disgrace. imagine saying “it was sudden and forceful” but then turning around to go “but it’s not assault, trust me i study law.” bro. please.

I didn’t try to portray them as the same, although woowons rape is more upfront and obvious what Seoan did to woowon was rape as well. Sex without proper consent is rape no matter what situation, even if it’s a woman forcing a mans dick in her. It’s really not that complicated and idgaf what the law in your country considers rape, the judicial system fails people all the time and you should know that specially if you’re a law student lol

You don't know what rape is ... Rape and sexual assault are different shit.. talking to people like you makes me feel like I'm talking to cave mans ... Get some proper knowledge and then come and talk

@stewie bitch go read the definition of rape first.. blocking me won't make you look like you won the argument.. you don't even know whats rape and sexual assault... Fucking prick... I don't wanna argue with uneducated swines like you.. you are the real life laughing stock of this society.. get some education or something instead of blindly defending rapists...

And none of my statements contradict one another.. woowon did engage in consensual sex even though he was against for Seoan's sake at first.. that sex was consensual.. and consensual sex can never be called assault or rape.. getting your fucking facts straight first.. i keep writing the same shit over and over again.. what is this crack head behavior? Whats so hard to understand? I swear all kinda brainless morons comes here and can't even get their facts right... Know the difference between all kinds of sexual assault first and then come argue with me...