Seoan goes through so much !! My poor boy.. he has to provide support to woowon emotionall...

oh i get it now you’re not “that bright” LMFAOOOOOO because you’re too busy dodging your own mistakes to actually face them. lmfao. all that loud barking about laws and “facts” but the second someone challenges you with actual logic, suddenly it’s “i’m not gonna read your bullshit”? yeah, because you can’t, not without admitting you fumbled hard.

keep pretending it’s “universal law” if that helps you sleep at night, but the real issue here is that you’re just mad you got called out and can’t handle it. that’s why you’re spiraling instead of debating.

You have distorted your statements a countless times by now, by saying seoan raped woowon and then went on to say seoan needs to tolerate it because he accepted woowon to lean on him and then you moved on to say both of them were wrong .. why so many distortion ?? Can't stick to one ? Seoan is in the receiving end in the relationship so yes he can't rape but he can commit assault if he wants.. but both of them had consensual sex so its not considered rape or assault.. i literally wrote this same shit a million times by now and you are still acting dumb... Go research on this topic or something instead of trying to distort amd twist what these terms are... Because your dumbness is hurting my brain...

you keep saying i’m distorting my points but the only one twisting things here is you. it’s honestly wild how you still can’t read between the lines. i never said seoan deserved to be raped — what i actually said was, you calling him pitiful for “raising a grown man” is ironic because he’s the one who literally told woowon to lean on him. he offered that role. so yeah, don’t act like it was forced on him — he chose it. and when you willingly take on that emotional burden, saying “he’s pitiful” just doesn’t hit the way you think it does. that’s the “deserve what you tolerate” part. not the assault. don’t twist my words just because you can’t keep up.

also, you keep screaming “i said this a million times” like repetition makes your argument more correct — it doesn’t. what it really shows is you can’t actually respond to what’s being said, so you just keep yelling louder and insulting people’s intelligence to cover it up.

maybe if you actually read my replies instead of foaming at the mouth, your brain wouldn’t hurt so much.

now, who's the dumbass here, isn't it u? the law student who doesn't have any comprehension

You keep barking like you said something valid.. makes me wanna laugh

Wait where in the fucking hell i ever said seoan is pitiful?? Why are you straight out lying now.. i said he goes through so much shit but that doesn't make him pitiful.. excuse me but i don't think you even remember what you write.. i never called seoan pitiful

Go back and show me where i called seoan pitiful... Because this is terrifying how easily you are twisting my words

I keep Repeating it cuz you guys don't know what it means and keep pointing out weird shits you cooked up... Thats not how it works sorry to burst your bubble... Go search it up or something Google is practically free for you dumb people.. rape can't be committed by women thats a rule and i didn't make it... Its the universal law.. and also seoan is the one getting done here so in this relationship he can't do it..

Im insulting your intelligence because you have none... You are so lazy to find out the truth to the point you are just saying whatever comes to your mind.. your sense of justice is not the same as how society perceive it.. and you are refusing to accept that

And you actually said what seoan did was rape lol.. i can even copy paste you reply... Now you are denying the fact that you said it .. damn
And no people don't tolerate bullshit a d toxic behavior from their partners just because they said they can lean on them... This is outrageous that you think this is right... this just shows how little you care about the people that are being abused in a relationship

And show me where i twisted my points?? Im still sticking to the same things i said..
From chap 59-61 - their making out started as rage induced and forceful from Seoan's side, woowon tried to stop him because he was worried Seoan's ass gonna tear, but then woowon manhandled him to stop and calmed Seoan down then they did have consensual sex... It wasn't rape, it wasn't assault, it was CONSENSUAL..
The recent chapter: woowon forcefully kissed him and they started making out , but then woowon again manhandled seoan and started having sex then seoan told him to stop because he was hurting or feeling weird but he didn't he continued.. and them again seoan told him several times but he continues anyway.. this is called rape in a relationship... Get it now??? And no way in hell this should be tolerated in any relationship...
I have been sticking to the same exact point but you keep jumping from one end to another... And then came here to say i twisted your words? And then you keep lying consistently saying i called seoan pitiful.. when was that?? I said he goes through a lot because of the circumstances he's in... You keep saying bulls crap as if the world revolves around you.. you are now making up new laws and rules for rape and shit .. like bruhhhh

you know what? i’m not even mad anymore. this is just sad at this point. the way you genuinely think you're making sense while missing the entire point over and over again is... honestly disturbing. you’ve thrown insults, tried to flex your so-called law knowledge, and still managed to misunderstand basic reading comprehension.

no one said you literally used the word “pitiful.” we said you framed seoan as pitiful by going on and on about how much he’s “going through,” how he’s “raising a grown man,” and how he’s the one we should feel sorry for. that’s the tone you set, even if the word wasn’t there. it’s not a lie — it’s just reading between the lines. which clearly, you struggle with.

you keep shouting that “rape can only be committed by men” like it’s some universal law, when in reality, you’ve been corrected multiple times with real-world examples, legal definitions, and direct sources from actual international laws. but instead of considering those, you double down and say “google it” — while you continue to post the most outdated, dangerous garbage with your whole chest.

you’re out here quoting chapters as if we didn’t all read the same thing. you yourself said the scene in 59–61 started as rage-induced and forceful. and yet, you’re the one trying to say that’s totally fine and consensual? but suddenly in the more recent chapter, when the roles are reversed, now it’s “unacceptable and clearly rape”? this isn't consistency — it's bias, plain and simple. and the fact that you keep claiming you're being logical while failing to grasp your own contradictions is honestly embarrassing.

what’s more sad is how you keep accusing me of “jumping around” when i’ve said the same thing this entire time: both characters have done wrong. that’s not switching sides — that’s holding both accountable. something you clearly can't do without exploding.

so no, i’m not making up laws, twisting anything, or lying about your words. i’m just reading what you wrote — and it’s not a good look. if this is how you interpret consent, power dynamics, and abuse while calling yourself a law student, then yeah — society’s in trouble.

i’m done arguing with someone who clearly isn’t here for discourse, just projection and ego. good luck living in that echo chamber. you'll need it.

Honestly, at this point, it’s clear this isn’t just a disagreement, it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of legal definitions, power dynamics, and what accountability looks like in a complex relationship. To clarify one thing, rape is not universally defined as something only a man can commit. That claim is legally inaccurate and ethically outdated. Many countries recognize that rape can be committed by anyone, regardless of gender or sexual role. If you're going to cite legal standards, you should at least verify that your statements align with actual laws not just assumptions. Saying, “It’s the same in every country,” is not only factually wrong, it’s honestly embarrassing. My country, for one, acknowledges more inclusive and realistic definitions and it’s not “pathetic” for doing so. As for the rest, Stewie never said Seoann deserved to be assaulted. They said both parties have done harm, and highlighting one’s trauma doesn’t erase their wrongdoing especially when that trauma is used to excuse harmful behavior. That’s not twisting anything; it’s simply applying accountability consistently, not selectively. If someone tells their partner to stop during intimacy and that’s ignored, that is not okay, no matter which character does it. That’s the point. And if you genuinely believe otherwise, then yes, that’s a concerning take to hold, especially if you're claiming to be a law student. In short, no one’s twisting your words. People are reading what you’re saying and pointing out the contradictions in how you apply them.

you should've wrote it in simple words! watch em can't comprehend it again and again

You're so right, I should've! Reading this thread really feels like watching the creator argue with a mirror. Hahahha

Where are you from? As you mentioned not every country holds this as the same regard and gave your country as an example then i need to know so that i can show you what your country perceive as rape... Rape has a specific definition, anything outside that is not rape , this rule can not be charged no matter where you are from and i gave just a basic idea of the rule.. i can verify my statement through real statutory definition and rules.. because it is not my "assumption"... As im from uk under section 42 of the sexual offence act 2003 it gives the definition of rape , you can search it if you want.. under section 74 of the sexual offence act 2003 it gives the definition of consent and what constitute as consent... I can cite common law cases too but you are not gonna search and read those huge case laws i know so im just giving you the statutory citations...
Here what you guys are calling rape is completely different from how rape is perceived.. this is why lay people dont understand these facts because they are driven by emotions and the primary concept of it...
Giving consent can invalidate anything as rape.. thats exactly what woowon did by giving his consent to the previous chapters 59-61...he said no out of concern for seoan..so seoan doesn't get hurt but the he managed to calm him down and the sex finished with both of them giving green sign to sex and consent....this is why this even cannot be compared to the recent one.... so no matter what any one says even though it started forceful or not you can't hold seoan accountable for committing rape because 1, woowon gave consent so it becomes consensual and 2, woowon is the one penetrating him...
And i don't think you read all 40 comments because stew did say what seoan did was rape and he tried to justify woowon's act because i said seoan goes through a lot ... trying to justify that what woowon did is right indirectly by bringing up the previous event which wasn't even a rape though it was filled with misunderstandings is completely outrageous... I don't think people without the knowledge of what suffice as rape or not will understand the depth of this crime... So tagging someone as rapist is as serious as invalidating the crime...

You are completely coo-coo and have shit for a brain so don't even try please.. get lost and cry over your personal hate thread because you need validation to live your life..

Thank you for sharing the legal references from the UK Sexual Offences Act 2003. I acknowledge that statutory definitions provide an important framework, but it’s also crucial to recognize that legal definitions alone don’t fully capture the complexities of consent and power dynamics, especially in nuanced interpersonal relationships. Consent is not simply a one-time “green light” that permanently invalidates any later claim of assault or coercion. Consent given under pressure, fear, or confusion especially in a context of force or emotional manipulation may not meet the standard of freely given, enthusiastic consent recognized in both law and ethics. Your explanation that Woowon’s prior consent “invalidates” any claims of rape in subsequent interactions overlooks how consent must be ongoing and can be withdrawn at any time. The fact that Woowon initially said “NO” to Seoan out of concern is a significant indicator that consent was not freely given in that moment. The circumstances you describe suggest a more complex interaction than a simple binary of “consensual” or “not consensual.” Furthermore, focusing solely on the mechanics of penetration ignores that sexual assault and rape can be perpetrated by individuals regardless of gender or anatomy, and can include coercion and abuse of power, which is why the conversation about bottoms or women being rapists is relevant here. Lastly, dismissing people’s concerns as “emotional” or “lack of knowledge” risks oversimplifying a serious and sensitive issue. Also, it's quite embarrassing to claim that “every country defines rape the same way,” especially given recent legal developments that directly contradict this assertion. For example, the Supreme Court of the Philippines recently ruled that genital contact is not required to prove attempted rape, broadening the legal understanding of the crime beyond mere penetration. This clearly shows that definitions of rape vary significantly across jurisdictions, and blanket statements like yours undermine the complexity of international law. It’s important to recognize such nuances rather than make sweeping generalizations that don’t hold up to scrutiny.

isn't it embarrassed living in uk, an english country yet still lacks comprehension? girl, lol.

You still didn't mention where you are from and completely disregarded it...that says how you are trying to hide it so that I can't show you your country's provisions.. To call it a rape not only consent but court sees every other elements in it.. so its not only a matter of consent... And you didn't even read the Philippines case, the rule was about an "attempted" rape not committed rape .. you don't need genital contact for rape that's being attempted.. but to commit a rape you need proper penetration.. lol you missed out the meaning and wording of their verdict and now calling me embarrassing??? And then you said i don't understand comprehension ?? Oh please...Don't try to get smart with me because i know very well what i said prevails in every country... And its not only statutory definition they seeks out they also go through common laws but you don't know that .... I never made any general assumptions its you people that keep on making statements based on whatever seems right to you..

Girl you keep crying at every little thing i say i know more about comprehension than your entire bloodline so save yourself from the trouble of trying to look valid but failing miserably.. you are quite embarrassing at this point... But keep crying thats what gets you going