Guys I want your thoughts on this

Livia May 29, 2025 11:45 am

I have never felt Diana to be a wrong person in this story for some reason. I know that currently she has gone crazy but at the start of this manhwa, Diana was the saintess , she and Helios had many times told Kael not to solve problems in a violent ways but when he went to far , she couldn't forgive his acts and decided to let go of him inorder to punish him . After which Kael tried to kill himself ....it was shown that as his friends they should have never abandoned him but did he ever tried to act through the problems in a way their friend requested . All they said is that they never want to see his face but he ended up killing himself which ended up one of the reasons of their divorce.I have always felt they were not wrong at all .

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    Ruby May 29, 2025 12:08 pm

    I can see your perspective. All I would add is that some of the key pieces they mentioned was that Karl’s actions with the previous duke(?) was needed although not preferred. Karl took the fall because Helios was the crown prince and couldn’t risk it. It’s not wrong to have your own beliefs and such. However, Helios was aware of the situation being unavoidable and still partook in condemning Kael while knowing he was able to happily marry Diana because of it. Nothing wrong with them being happy or anything. But Kael removed that obstacle for them as a friend and understood the urgency from a political perspective too. Yet in order to comfortably wrap everything up, they painted him as a villain for their own sake. It’s kind of a toss up honestly. I feel like Diana would have been better off if they hadn’t coddled her every time something complicated or contradicting came up. Even now, she’s throwing her own beliefs used to pin Kael as a villain out the window because she no longer has the endless love from everybody around her. ( ̄∇ ̄")

    elyanor May 29, 2025 12:10 pm

    Wow..... No, neither of them is innocent but at least the crown prince is redemptive and have the best of the empire in his heart. Diana on the other hand believed she is simply special because she is a saint, then of course it's normal to receive love and admiration. Through the story, you will see her hypocrisy and it'd have been exposed long before if there were any worthy rivals before Hess. The thing about the Kaelus getting rid of the opposing duke family was in best interest of both his alleged friends. Hypocrites enjoy the results done by other people and preach about peaceful solutions (there is no such a thing as they are average in thinking and Kaelus is far more capable than them, so they made it his fault and labelled him evil). I could have tolerated Diana if she really liked the crown prince and may be felt apologetic towards Kaelus, but she simply chose the higher position being a crown princess than a marchioness before he became a duke he was a marquess.

    Igris_theDarkKnight May 29, 2025 12:12 pm

    Diana's a self righteous bull head that thinks she's right all the time and that SHE could never do or be wrong. She sees the world in black and white. She believes that threatening someone, even to stop INJUSTICE is morally wrong and to her, Cael became no different than the nobles he threatened.

    Why is this problematic you may ask? Because this kind of rigid morality ignores context, nuance, and consequences. Cael was trying to protect other from corruption and harm, but Diana solely focused on his methods, not his intention or result.

    Diana doesn't try to understand why Cael did what he did, or the emotional burden it left on him.

    Instead of offering compassion or guidance, she abandons him at his lowest point.

    She’s a saintess, someone expected to show mercy, empathy, and wisdom, YET she FAILS at all three when it comes to Cael, who desperately needed support.

    Some peoples interpretations about her suggest Diana lives in an idealized fantasy of justice, disconnected from the reality of politics and power.

    She expects pure outcomes from pure methods, ignoring how messy real change can be.

    This makes her look naive at best, or hypocritical if she benefits from Cael’s sacrifices while condemning them.

    w_iju May 29, 2025 12:46 pm

    While at the start they're not exactly in the wrong for distancing themselves from Kael, they completely ignore what they had gone through together, practically disregarding their entire relationship. Like, sure, they were the crown prince and said prince's future wife, but Kael was their friend, and the two of them simply act as if he was a stranger. Even if they did condemn his actions and had the right to distance themselves from him, they could have also at least tried to talk things out so that all parties were on the same page, out of consideration for their friendship-- but they were both too stuck up to do so, and too stuck up to *actually* (legally) punish him too. They (mostly Diana tbh) berated him, acted all high and mighty like their sense of justice was this great thing, but then didn't actually do anything other than ostracize Kael. Even after hearing that Kael tried to kill himself (in this lifetime it was only once, but in the past one it had been multiple, multiple times), they don't reach out. Diana was even worse than Helios, considering he actually considered apologizing but Diana was the one to convince him otherwise.

    Even if you consider Kael to be in the wrong for "mudering" (or staging the murder of) the duke and his daughter, this does not mean Diana and Helios were right for how they handled it.

    There's also the fact Diana really does not even try to be a proper queen, and just wants the people around her to adapt to her wims; she's childish as all hell, only thinks of herself as being a saint when it benefits her, and still has the gall to think of herself as being better than others. What she did to Kael was never out of actual moral righteousness-- it was because she felt morally superior to him, and didn't want taint that superiority. Actual moral righteousness is never this black-and-white; it has nuance. And Diana doesn't care for nuance. She doesn't kill, so she will not associate herself with Kael after he has killed (nevermind her boyfriend being a crown prince, because she clearly does not understand the implications of being a monarch)-- she didn't try to legally punish him, she didn't try to change Kael's mind on why murder isn't ok, she didn't try to understand why and how it happened, and she didn't feel the need to understand if Kael was ever the kind of person who would resort to murder in the first place! If she thought Kael was the kind of person to do this, she shouldn't have associated with him– but either she had a fundamental misunderstanding of his sense of justice, or something made him act out of character. She, however, neither cared nor felt conflicted about what happened, and proceeded to not think twice before simply throwing him out of her life.

    It just showed how much she actually valued Kael; as an asset rather than a person. I don't even think she has gone crazy rn; she's just showing the kind of person she truly is because things are going out of control.

    Livia May 29, 2025 1:18 pm
    I can see your perspective. All I would add is that some of the key pieces they mentioned was that Karl’s actions with the previous duke(?) was needed although not preferred. Karl took the fall because Helios... Ruby

    Yeah you are right about this .....they could have handled this situation better and could have saved Kael too. They just didn't try

    Livia May 29, 2025 1:19 pm
    Wow..... No, neither of them is innocent but at least the crown prince is redemptive and have the best of the empire in his heart. Diana on the other hand believed she is simply special because she is a saint, ... elyanor

    I didn't thought from this point of view

    Livia May 29, 2025 1:22 pm
    Diana's a self righteous bull head that thinks she's right all the time and that SHE could never do or be wrong. She sees the world in black and white. She believes that threatening someone, even to stop INJUST... Igris_theDarkKnight

    Yeah ..... instead of completely abandoning him , she really should have shown compassion and forgiveness....maybe then he wouldn't have committed suicide

    Livia May 29, 2025 1:25 pm
    While at the start they're not exactly in the wrong for distancing themselves from Kael, they completely ignore what they had gone through together, practically disregarding their entire relationship. Like, su... w_iju

    After you put it this way .....I also feel she was really seeing him as an asset

    Livia May 29, 2025 1:27 pm

    Thank you so much Guys....Ever since I was reading this story. I kind of did understood that Diana was not a good person but for some reason I also felt pity for her too . This made me more clear about her

    Ruby Queen May 29, 2025 3:19 pm

    This are some of the reason I don't like Diana and they show she wasn't a saintess at all.

    Kael gave a bribe to the church under Diana's name so that Diana could have a stable standing with the church since she is a commoner  ( land called illion)( Diana knew of the bribe and knew how it had benefited her so she didn't want to give it back to Kael)(Chapter 6,9)

    After becoming the crown princess, Diana didn't heal the common people, only nobles ( She was made saintes by God to help the common people but decide to marry into royalty Intead, choosing nobility instead a common life.) (Chapter 9)

    The pink diamond ring that Kael was gonna use to propose to diana which he gave to Hestia ( Diana knew that Kael was thinking of proposing to her using that diamond and she made this aware to Hestia) (Chapter 17)

    Diana rejecting Kael " I choose Helios. After all, who could ever refuse him? ( Diana made it sound like she didn't even think of Kael as an option and never though of rejecting Helios at all) (Chapter 22)

    Pretended that she was still in good terms with him when he went to see the king in the palace ( Diana had previously said that she was cutting ties with him but now is acting as it that didn't happen) (Chapter 1, 28)

    Diana commenting that Hestia should also 'dress accordingly' like her. ( Diana is implying that Hestia spent alot of money on the dress that she is wearing, we know that it's just a remade dress . It was Diana that used alot of money for her dress) (Chapter 32)

    While talking to Helios, Diana says she can't forgive Kael since that would compromise her principles ( Didn't Diana already compromise her principles by becoming a princess, soon to be queen and trying to be accept by the nobles while leaving the common people to fend for themselves without the saintess healings) (Chapter 35)

    After Hestia disagree with Diana at the Tea party, Helios and Diany used their power as prince and princess to forced her to apologize ( This reinforces the ideas the Diana gave up on her principles because she is now using her standing as a princess to make Hestia apologize even though Hestia didn't do anything wrong in making Diana aware that she judge Kael to harshly considering that the nobles he took care of where child trafficking even leading a rebellion against the Empire, which they would have been killed by Empire if Kael hadn't done it first) (Chapter 33)