i like the story and the theme but its really weird that 16 yr olds are getting sexualised...

and ur totally in ur right to feel that way too honestly… I feel the same ;3; its strange liking something so much and yet theres so much problematic stuff in it

shonen being shonen

unfortunately this is such a common theme in japanese media :( but at least u recognize it!!! media doesnt have to be perfect for us to enjoy it but it’s important to be aware and critical… just sucks that this is such an issue lol

Then go read something that doesn’t make you uncomfortable ^~^ the back button is right there. <3

Syau bro, just bcs someone is commenting their opinion on something totally understand does NOT mean they can’t keep reading this…please stfu

you can voice your opinion on something without implying that the author actually approves of it irl. "haha at least I don't support the author" implies they look down on the creator for their choices of what to put *fictional characters* through. I would prefer people that act like that to not share the same fandom spaces I do, because I've experienced time and time again that they don't respect fandom culture and need to loudly proclaim how disgusting everyone else is. can't stop em, but *sure* won't approve of it. so no, you stfu actually. this topic's been beaten like a dead horse and I'm tired of it.

the way you say that with all this confidence like you’re not putting words in our mouths is crazy…like just say you have a superiority complex for ignoring weird themes and go. Me personally I still support through the anime and merchandise because i’m smart enough to enjoy content and be critical of it (and I assume everyone else who’s been respectful are too), but literally everyone in the thread hasn’t spoken a word about not supporting the author or feeling above the author for not doing so or saying the author approves of it.

I’m not gonna sit here and defend where i’m reading the manga because we’re all here reading it without buying the chapters, so you shouldn’t be acting like you’re big and bad either. Saying you don’t wanna “share fandom space” with anyone who criticizes the mangaka is you saying you want to stay in an echo chamber where everyone thinks the exact same way your loser ass does.

Maybe we’re saying its uncomfortable because its uncomfortable, maybe doing these things consistently to young characters in media consumed by young viewers will affect how they view the world and normalize those things, maybe the situation is nuanced and you want to ignore the nuance because you don’t want to admit something about yourself. I’m not responding past this btw, because you’re a troll that doesn’t deserve attention. Take a look in the mirror for once in your sad shitty life and think about what kind of person you’ve become.

Yea I look down on the author and you. We really live in a world where even saying pedophilia makes me uncomfortable some people will come and bark at you.

If you have no intention, then you won’t see it as sexualizing. I ain’t going back to the time where we have to covered from head to toe. Ironically, the more you covered, the more perverted people become. In the west, we just get use to it. When things become part of the normal, you just don’t see it that way.

Wow a 16 yr old girl literally getting raped almost twice with a close up show of ur crotch, 15 yr old aira swims around naked in a bra panty. How dense can u be? Will it have to written out in bold letters for u to take it seriously? I hv no intention so I won't ever draw minors in compromising positions which does nothing for the plot

first thing first. I was quoting the initial comment, not your reply. your reply didn't even annoy me because you were simply stating your opinion and a fact. I am sorry if it came through like that, I assume it's because of the sites way to show replies.
to quote the exact sentence from the main comment: "well i will continue reading since the plot is good atleast i am not supporting the author since i am pirating haha"

so once again, I don't need you defending yourself for enjoying the manga, I wasn't adressing you. I'm not saying I don't want to share fandom spaces with anyone criticising the creator, though I can see how it came across that way. I'm saying I've experienced a lot of fandoms becoming toxic spaces because people are being assholes to each other over things in fiction. that's not the same thing.

I am not denying that it is an uncomfortable topic, because it is. I'm having a problem with people voicing their disapproval of it being included in the first place. uncomfortable topics have a right to be written about and if you can't handle it being in a story, do yourself a favour and read something else. yes, I said it in a snarky, passive agressive tone when replying initially, but I genuinely mean that. I've DNFd stories I can't handle before and there is no shame in that, I don't make it everyone elses problem though.

when it comes to the debate of "readers will be influenced by fiction and normalize these things"
first, as a general thing it's been studied that people who are sound in the head won't just start thinking something's okay because it happens in fiction.
second, specific to the adressed scenes at hand. the sexual assault scenes are NOT FRAMED AS A GOOD THING! neither of em. the aliens are meant to be threatening, the men in the bath are meant to be disgusting. if you're seriously arguing "omg the bad guy is doing bad things, gets beaten up for it and we're clearly uncomfortable *with* our main character, then I don't know what to tell ya, but I thought we're able to read critically here.
either way, I hope you have a wonderful day and chill out a little. ^-^
PS: this comment has been written while being in a far better mood than my previous two, which might show? I dunno. I definitely wasn't polite in them, but I tried to respond to this one friendlier, considering I didn't mean to offend you in the first place.

I despise pedophelia, thank you very much. in fact you're talking to a CSA victim here, not that you knew this, so I'm not holding that part against you.

what I also despise is the watering down of terms by using it for fiction, because unlike with ACTUAL LIVING BREATING PEOPLE, WHERE THERE ARE VICTIMS, fiction is nothing but lines on a screen. nobody hurt, nobody traumatised, not worth to use IRL terms for.
I couldn't give a rats ass if a mangaka wants to draw a fictional character in skimpy outfits. this is a SHOUNEN in the first place. you know, for hormonal teenage boys. that usually like teenage girls. so fanservice scenes like during the nessy fight don't bother me (plus, unlike most anime with hurr durr I need an excuse to draw em naked bs, the reason "clothes are sucked full of water and make us heavier" is entirely logical, but I fucking digress.)

as for the initial scene. they might have taken some liberty with how they animate it, I might be too gay to see the sexyness in it, but overall, the alien scene is still very much shown in a negative light. so I don't know what your problem is except "I'm uncomfortable", which I already initially said would be reason to not read it for your own sake. it's not shameful to stop reading stories if you can't handle the material. yes, I was snarky and passive agressive in my initial comment (and I won't deny my tone here is harsh too, considering you started your reply with "I look down on you") but I also do mean it genuinely when I say "the back button is here, abort if you can't handle a story." because it's genuinely better for your mental health sometimes. I DNFd stories I didn't vibe with before.

Anyways. being uncomfortable with topics is fine. judging IRL people who wrote the uncomfortable topic or don't mind reading it like that and implying disgusting stuff about them? not fine.