This is so frustrating to read because while the alpha is a complete jerk the Omega has st...

yes he committed corporate espionage but that was coercion from his abusive father. but THAT doesnt mean he deserves emotional abuse from his husband. cant believe you are defending that.

he was a jerk to sejin even before he stole them tho...

He committed corporate espionage against his husband! You cannot expect to be treated well if you steal from somebody. The victim of your immoral scumbag thievery is not going to treat you with respect!

Why do you think stealing is okay? Why do you think he didn't commit a crime? Why do you think this man doesn't deserve to be in prison? Because he does. He absolutely deserves to be in prison. He is a criminal. He is a criminal who has shown no remorse and he's continuing to live with his victim like he did nothing wrong.

He absolutely deserves the disrespect. Thieves deserve to be disrespected.

Now, I have read this novel and I want to make it very clear that the things that come after the disrespect no one deserves. It is only the disrespect, only the disrespect, that he deserves. The things that come after this no one, and I mean absolutely no one deserves.

You should try to see this marriage from both sides. As far as the alpha knows he's being forced into this marriage with this enemy Omega who's only marrying him for monetary gain. The alpha is in a terrible position. He doesn't want this marriage but he has no choice.

You can't expect someone to be happy about being forced into a marriage and to treat their partner, who seems very enthusiastic and is the one forcing them into the marriage, like they actually want the marriage. He's not even being that bad, or at least he wasn't up until recently. Sure he's being a jerk but who wouldn't be a jerk in this situation?

You're only viewing this from the eyes of the main character and not looking at the story from every perspective.

I do want to make it very clear that I have read this novel and that the things that come after the disrespect, the escalation that is coming, no one deserves that. No matter how badly the Omega has wronged the alpha no one in the world deserves to be treated the way that he will be treated shortly. I just want to make that incredibly clear.

you talk like he even had a choice like take his situation into consideration. He was adopted for the sole purpose of being used and he knew that, he never belonged in his family also his husband treats him like and inconvenience. He essentially has nothing to his name and belongs nowhere. in his mind he had a moral obligation to listen to his father's order because he used usefulness as a omega to get adapted also what the fuck did you expect him to do in the situation tell his bastard of a husband his father's order, get divorced, get you disowned and then what

well yeah, he deserves his time in prison okay but then his father shall get a life sentence for coersing him into it and for child abuse and all the harm he's done for his employees after the corporate fall... you're right but it's bitter to read when his fault isn't his. either he khs after the sentence or after the more abuse he gets with ido already

literally!!!

exactly!!!

It is his fault! He is a grown adult man who made the decision to commit corporate espionage and steal from his husband. Stop taking away his agency. He is fully capable of making a decisions on his own and he is fully responsible for his own actions.

Is he a child? Is he disabled in any way? Has he been found to be legally incompetent? I do not understand why so many people on this website believe that a bottom can do no wrong. That if someone is a bottom they are never responsible for their own actions.

Of course his father is guilty too but his father being guilty doesn't make him any less guilty. Two wrongs are just two wrongs. In this case there are three wrongs. The father is wrong, the bottom is wrong, and the top is wrong. None of their wrongs make a right.

The only one who is even remotely justified at this point in time is the top because he has been victimized by the two others and had no choice in the matter. That's going to change, I just want to make it clear that's going to change but at this point the story that's a fact.

He always had a choice! He is a grown adult man. He actually has his own assets, he's not even poor. He could very easily walk away from all of this. You forgot that he is a general manager of a huge company. He has a passport!

You're creating this scenario where he has no agency, where this nearly 30 year old grown man is an incompetent child. He knew he was doing something wrong and he did it anyways. He knew that stealing and committing corporate espionage would only make his situation worse and he did it anyways.

You say he has no choice but we always have a choice. We can always choose to do the right thing because we're adults. If we choose to do the wrong thing we are always responsible for our actions.

Do you know how many pedophiles were molested when they were children? Should we just say that it's okay that they go out and molest lots of children because they had a bad childhood? No, no we do not. We hold them responsible for their actions because they're adults. A bad childhood and abuse do not excuse you from doing terrible things. They never excuse you. There is no excuse for doing things you know are wrong.

Why are you equating pedophilia to corporate espionage as if they are the same level of crime?.
also, one can be a victim AND have agency. but do not erase the fact that they are a victim nevertheless. I don't even hate Sejin, I love the story and cant wait to see his redemption but it is fact that he is doing emotional abuse even before the mc steals the data, and even refuses to acknowledge the omega's agency by not inquiring about his own past and present condition of abuse, only treating him horribly based on pure assumption. Rather than defending that, it's best to accept that this a dark story, with dark characters.

correction *I don't even hate Ido

You can't argue that the Omega has no agency it isn't responsible for his actions at all in one breath and then argue that the alpha doesn't acknowledge his agency in the other.

Either the Omega is an adult with agency who is responsible for his own actions and his own crimes or he's disabled to the point where he's not legally capable of making his own decisions and therefore has no agency.

You can't have it both ways! He's either a helpless child/severely disabled person or he's an adult.

And comparing different crimes and how we view them is actually a completely valid way to look at this. We know that hurt people hurt people. Being a victim can mitigate your punishment but it does not absolve you of your crimes. You want to say that the Omega has literally done nothing wrong and his life and is not responsible for any of his actions ever for any reason because he had a rough childhood but at the same time you would never say that for other people in other circumstances that have had much worse childhoods...

It's just hypocritical. It shows that you don't actually care that the Omega is a unrepentant criminal because you like him as a character.

Wow the way you decide what’s morally unforgivable is honestly ruthless. Like yeah stealing is wrong, no one’s denying that. But degrading, mistreating and raping someone BEFORE even knowing they stole anything? You’re okay with that? MC is just not worth your empathy at all and ML has a right to do so just because "maybe he's just here for money"?

You talk like MC had full freedom and clarity, like he made some cold, calculated decision. But he was adopted to be used, emotionally manipulated his whole life and taught his only worth was his usefulness. In fact that’s not freedom, that’s survival.
So sure, technically he’s an adult. But trauma doesn’t magically vanish when you turn 18. Saying “he had a passport, he could’ve left” is like saying “why didn’t the battered woman just walk out?” As if emotional conditioning and fear don’t exist.

And that pedophile analogy is really inappropriate and wrong. The extreme majority of people who were abused as children don’t become abusers. That narrative is proved to be inaccurate, and is deeply harmful.
Yes, adults are responsible for their actions, but trauma shapes behavior. It’s not an excuse, it’s a fact. And since legality seems to matter to you, just so you know that trauma, coercion and long-term abuse would actually count as mitigating circumstances in court.
I’m not saying MC did nothing wrong. But saying he deserves disrespect while brushing off emotional and sexual abuse? Srsly that’s not justice, that’s cruelty wearing a moral costume.

The fact that you think that people that have been through abuse are no longer capable of being treated like adults shows just how ableist you are.

To sit there and say that just because, and I'm choosing my words carefully here, just because the Omega was abused as a child he should no longer be considered a competent adult. You believe that anyone who has gone through any sort of trauma should be considered legally incompetent...

That's maybe the most offensive take I've ever read on this website.

The Omega absolutely made a cold and calculated decision. He stood there knowing that what he was about to do was wrong, he was fully competent, sober, not under any immediate threat, and completely understood the difference between right and wrong, and he chose to do the wrong thing anyways.

That's something that only bad people do. You need to realize that. Only truly and actually bad people take the time to think about their actions and the consequences of their actions and then choose to do the wrong thing anyways. This isn't something that you can handle away because you think trauma magically make someone incompetent. It doesn't.

Don't be stupid. You're so pathetic in victim blaming the uke and naming him a bad person when you don't have any ounce of empathy. It's disgusting when people talk into moral high ground when they're just a piece of shit too. You're last paragraph was just full of narcissistic hypocrisy. "Only truly and actually bad people take the time to think about their action and the consequences of their actions and then choose to do the wrong thing anyway" what kind of shit is that? Are you really serious? Who are you to judge what's going on his mind? You sound like those cult scammer. Disgusting.

What do you mean who am I to judge what's going on in his mind? This is a story where we see his thoughts. We literally saw his thoughts as he made the decision to steal. This isn't some sort of mystery where we don't understand what he was thinking. This is a fictional story!

We literally know that he was competent, sober, fully aware of the consequences, fully in control of his faculties, able to understand right from wrong, and understanding that what he was about to do was wrong. We know this because we could see his thoughts in the literal panels of this manhwa.

Did you even read this story? Are you just making all this up and arguing for the sake of arguing?

I'm not sure if you're stupid or a troll. Maybe both... Probably both.

I never said trauma makes someone legally incompetent, nor that abuse erases all responsibility. What I said is that trauma affects decision-making, especially when it’s long-term, manipulative and ongoing.

Besides, MC isn’t someone who used to be abused, he’s still in it. He’s still being emotionally controlled by his adoptive family, still under pressure, stuck in the same survival mindset he was raised in, and now he’s being abused by his husband too. So no, he’s not making choices from a place of freedom or safety. That context matters. And not just this kind of context with trauma and abuse, any context influences behavior and decisions.

Once again, acknowledging how trauma shapes behavior isn’t the same as denying agency, it’s understanding how people make decisions under pressure, fear, and emotional conditioning... something the rule of law actually recognizes and takes into account.

Sure, MC knew what he did was wrong. But knowing something is wrong doesn’t mean someone acts with total clarity, or with the same range of options as someone who grew up safe and supported by non-toxic guidance. You seem to think context doesn’t change how people make decisions, maybe because you don’t think it should matter. Maybe that’s where we disagree.

I’m not excusing anything. I just think morality isn’t that simple, all white or black, and that accountability and context can coexist.
If your belief is “only bad people knowingly do bad things,” well… every character in this story is bad, and frankly most people too. That’s just not the lens I use when I try to understand people, fictional or real.

I know this is a touchy topic and I may have come off strongly, but I care a lot about how we talk about responsibility, law, and trauma, especially in stories that reflect real-life dynamics. And what you’re saying really borders on victim blaming and lack of empathy.

I agree. It's really such a nice way to live in when you just easily accuse someone without understanding the pretext of what they're going through...

Empathy has become this overused word that means nothing. It's really sad.

I don't think you actually understand what empathy is. Empathy isn't deciding that some people can do no wrong. Empathy isn't refusing to hold people responsible for their own actions. Empathy isn't declaring people who have been through trauma incompetent.

He is a almost 30 year old man. I think he's 28. You and this other dumbshit have completely forgotten that we see his thoughts because this is a fictional story. We fully and completely understand what the omegas was thinking, what his motivations were, and everything else at the time when he committed the crime.

We know that he was fully aware of the consequences, he fully understood that it was wrong and understood the difference between right and wrong. He took the time to think about it. This wasn't an impulsive decision. He took days to think about it. He weighed his choices and he picked the choice he thought would personally benefit him the most even though he knew that it was the wrong thing to do. He planned this crime in Cold blood. And then he did it and showed absolutely no remorse.

You keep making up excuses for him, saying that he's not responsible for his actions. Saying that I should have empathy for him in this specific situation when... How could I? I saw his thoughts, I saw his motives. You're completely forgetting that you saw his thoughts and his planning.

You're so focused on the things that happened to him that you have forgotten about the things that he did.

He was not reactive when he committed his theft. It was a cold and calculated move that he thought would benefit him the most. It was just theft. I don't know why you're trying to justify it.

I have repeatedly said that he in no way deserves the things that are coming. He does not. He didn't deserve the abuse he got as a child. I understand why he's so quiet and unwilling to stand up for himself, I completely understand that. That's something I actually deeply empathize with because I struggle with that. I think we all struggle with that. I was constantly blamed for anything that went wrong in my household when I was a child. My family had a very strong Golden child and scapegoat dynamic and I was the scapegoat. Trust me, I empathize with this Omega.

I do not empathize with his theft. I do not empathize with his cold hearted crime. I don't empathize with it because I know that people can go through terrible childhoods and not become selfish thieves. Only bad people become selfish themes.