Alr Tracy u a queen but like cage and a collar? Really?

stuckinmybed July 18, 2025 4:44 am

Alr Tracy u a queen but like cage and a collar? Really?

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    Bogwitch July 18, 2025 3:28 pm

    fr...kink appeal but with a child. gross.

    Cadapech July 20, 2025 6:35 am
    fr...kink appeal but with a child. gross. Bogwitch

    Like just give him the cage, or better yet let the child sit next to her he's literally already devoted himself to her. Why you gotta collar the poor kid?

    Gravenshi July 20, 2025 12:31 pm
    Like just give him the cage, or better yet let the child sit next to her he's literally already devoted himself to her. Why you gotta collar the poor kid? Cadapech

    Who needs a dog like that? Boi was hungry and managed to burn the food he was yearning for - and he feels no shame. Who needs enemies when you have allies like Ash? Fools who can't think for themselves are the most dangerous type of allies you could have.

    Her cousin has a lot of leverage as a bargain token (hostage) and an actual support (servile lackey). What has Ash to offer other than PAIN IN THE NECK? I don't hate the kid, but I would rather not want to be easily forgiven.

    Bogwitch July 21, 2025 11:34 am
    Who needs a dog like that? Boi was hungry and managed to burn the food he was yearning for - and he feels no shame. Who needs enemies when you have allies like Ash? Fools who can't think for themselves are the ... Gravenshi

    bro he's 8

    Gravenshi July 21, 2025 10:13 pm
    bro he's 8 Bogwitch

    8 and an arsonist.

    Bogwitch July 22, 2025 1:07 pm
    8 and an arsonist. Gravenshi

    bombastic side eye lmao. Look, I get it, you like this story, I do too, but I think we can all take a step back and use some critical thinking skills. the whole "I'm a dog" thing is a kink cliche commonly used in these stories, which, with adults, I like, but this is an eight year old. with characters like carl i can make a bit more of an acception with the fact that she's actually an adult and he's actually a kid, but this is giving pedo vibes tbh. I'm not trying to discourage you from reading, I'm going to keep going, but we as adults in the 21st century can recognize that imprisoning an eight yr old in like a cage and dog collar is whack as hell. suspension of disbelief is fun and vital, but sometimes you gotta think with ur brain and accept parts of the media you like as not things you should blindly accept and internalize <3

    Gravenshi July 22, 2025 9:40 pm
    bombastic side eye lmao. Look, I get it, you like this story, I do too, but I think we can all take a step back and use some critical thinking skills. the whole "I'm a dog" thing is a kink cliche commonly used ... Bogwitch

    You lost me after critical skills... because I was actually expecting some actual critical thinking.This kinky topic tells me more about you than the story. It just shows your biais and your way of interpreting things: you are dirty-minded. I do not dwell on this nastiness, nor do I think the story is leaning there. I see a criminal getting incarcerated and I made my whole comment about it.

    My French teacher once told me that the best way to read a story is to "think inside the box" so you can actually grasp the "world" the author created, putting your preconceptions aside. Do whatever you want with this teaching of his.

    If you want to believe authors are as dirty minded as you, be your own guest. I am out.

    TurnIntoAsh July 22, 2025 9:42 pm
    bombastic side eye lmao. Look, I get it, you like this story, I do too, but I think we can all take a step back and use some critical thinking skills. the whole "I'm a dog" thing is a kink cliche commonly used ... Bogwitch

    I just wanna point out, usually in stories with this setting(old times), slaves/criminals are usually in colars and cages. These can also be seen in other stories or even in manga/anime so its a common thing. Not sure with history we shall not get into that. So now, I dont get how you are seeing it as a kink at all and then relating it to the mc being an adult. Remember the mc is a defenceless child(in body) and a minor/adolescent(her soul). Combining the time she is in, she cant do nothing to change what is deemed normal in that era.

    Plus even if he is a child, he still killed someone and with no remorse too so i dont see how these situation is unfair. As the mc said he is still a criminal. However, I do agree with the sentiment that he just did it out of desperation and i feel bad as well. But stop with the kink stuff, its not even being implied here and this word ruins the whole narrative of the manwha. I dont mean to be disrepectful btw sorry

    Cadapech July 23, 2025 6:33 am
    bombastic side eye lmao. Look, I get it, you like this story, I do too, but I think we can all take a step back and use some critical thinking skills. the whole "I'm a dog" thing is a kink cliche commonly used ... Bogwitch

    The reason why I said just leave him in the cage is because he would most likely be in a cage with a full group of people; now MC has also seen him slaughter as a full grown adult AND as a child; I understand MC's cautiousness but that doesn't mean I condone it.

    My issue has nothing to do with kink; because I'm not looking at this from a kink perspective; I'm looking at this through a "why are you treating this child as if he's already been traumatised and has been on the battlefield" lense.

    That is why I can look past the cage but the shackles just give me the slavery ick that so many darker skinned characters receive; I hate it.

    Gravenshi July 23, 2025 9:53 am
    The reason why I said just leave him in the cage is because he would most likely be in a cage with a full group of people; now MC has also seen him slaughter as a full grown adult AND as a child; I understand M... Cadapech

    Forget about slavery. He is not being enslaved, he is being detained. It is another case of refugee committing crimes within a their welcome country. This is more up to date.

    Bogwitch July 23, 2025 12:31 pm

    my sister in sin... it may be made logical in the *fictional story* what i am saying is we need to take a step back and question why we should relish a little brown boy being drugged and locked up in a cage. all of this was planned by an author. It's just like when weird anime dudes are like "no no, you don't understand, she may LOOK like a child but she's actually 1000 years old and she needs the bikini armor to release her powers!" Be critical of the media you consume when it does something perverse to a child.

    Cadapech July 23, 2025 3:19 pm
    Forget about slavery. He is not being enslaved, he is being detained. It is another case of refugee committing crimes within a their welcome country. This is more up to date. Gravenshi

    Except he's a child. Why should a child have to pay for the crimes the adults are forcing them to commit? Like others have stated he's EIGHT. The kid is in fight or flight mode and the MC who's traumatised in her own right is treating the children around her as if they were adults.

    It took her seeing her cousin being beaten in order for her to realise that JUST MAYBE SHE SHOULDN'T OUTRIGHT HATE HIM. If she wanted to detain someone and get answers there were plenty of adults.

    Your "Another case of refugee committing crimes in their welcome country" is really telling and not in a good way.

    Gravenshi July 23, 2025 9:56 pm
    Except he's a child. Why should a child have to pay for the crimes the adults are forcing them to commit? Like others have stated he's EIGHT. The kid is in fight or flight mode and the MC who's traumatised in h... Cadapech

    Dear Cadapech, kids are not above the laws, especially not "commoners" and "refugees" in the context of this story.
    1) The adults and him are facing charges.
    2) The kid is paying for his own crimes. It takes at least one idiot to start a war.
    3) Forget about the MC. She is not obligated to "forgive him" nor her forgiven him will change anything. The MC ain't good nor the ruler of the country. The kid is being judged by the laws of this foreign country. Neither the MC nor him is above the laws.
    4) Have you ever heard of utilitarianism? or the Snow Ball effect? Forget about the MC for a moment. He set a whole camp in fire. He betrayed and endangered his own country. His actions might have led people to die from the fire or from starvation. Of course, the nation would not stay still as a foolish riot is starting under their territory. He was promised food anyway, but he still decided to go for a shortcut and "guarantee" food for himself only. This level of selfishness is unprecedented and truthfully, deeply irrational.
    5) Ash is not just a child. He is a criminal, a murderer, a complotist and an arsonist. And he is not even remorseful. The MC is not running a charity nor is she a Saint. Girl almost died that day. You are expecting too much from her; her cousin is family, Ash is a perfect stranger. Ash's thought process is too shallow and, as the MC explained very eloquently, equally dangerous.
    6) Nobody is required to force themselves to befriend people they feel unsafe around. She does not trust Ash and her fear is more than legitimate and justified.

    Gravenshi July 23, 2025 9:57 pm
    my sister in sin... it may be made logical in the *fictional story* what i am saying is we need to take a step back and question why we should relish a little brown boy being drugged and locked up in a cage. al... Bogwitch

    I am not your sister, you pervert.

    Gravenshi July 23, 2025 10:45 pm
    Dear Cadapech, kids are not above the laws, especially not "commoners" and "refugees" in the context of this story. 1) The adults and him are facing charges.2) The kid is paying for his own crimes. It takes at ... Gravenshi

    Regardless, Tracy is washing her hands out of this, as Pilate did. The law shall decide: Tracy is not the one judging him, Vienna is. I recognize, in the XXIe century's framework, that my take might be harsh. To some extent, what's happening to Ash is unfortunate. It might be unfair for Ash to face so many betrayals and challenges at a young age.

    However, I do not believe it is the responsibility of the MC to foster him. Not only she is unwilling to, she cannot handle him in her current state. They will end up mutually hurting themselves. MC has a lot on her plate already and Ash clearly seems too much for her. Tracy does not owe him restoration. The best she is willing to do is to track down the villains behind this whole mess and make them pay.

    You may want to see Tracy as an adult, but in the eyes of many, she remains a powerless and silly child. She has no real standing. The only thing that keeps her moving is her ambitions. Tracy ain't Mother Theresa. She cannot offer warmness: she has yet learned this feeling. She is barely discovering what it means to be loved by her Grandpa.

    Anyway, let Tracy cook. She won't disappoint. I won't spoil anything.

    TurnIntoAsh July 23, 2025 11:41 pm
    Regardless, Tracy is washing her hands out of this, as Pilate did. The law shall decide: Tracy is not the one judging him, Vienna is. I recognize, in the XXIe century's framework, that my take might be harsh. T... Gravenshi

    Exactly, your points are all good. I just hope this gives light to readers to what the story truly implies. Besides we are only in this part of the story too.

    stuckinmybed July 24, 2025 2:04 am

    Holy shit was it that serious guys

    Bogwitch July 24, 2025 5:42 pm

    idk i think having discussions about media is good, actually! I think the point that is disturbing me is the cage and collar he's in. Again, the author made an intentional choice here, and in the context of these isekai romances, it's a kink thing, and i really don't want to see child characters fulfilling a femdom fantasy