Emiliano and Ines

And I didn’t like the name Luca at all but she named him after Luciano awwww

Love the siblingship true siblingship is missing so much from manhwas now

I mean yeah they didnt , but the whole point wasnt that they had some epic love story it was that ines was able to escape the nobility that had tormented her( and yes she does say in earlier chapters that it was a stupid decsion) and finally able to have a baby, not a miscarriage but one that was able to live to full term and then she had to kill her son and herself which was insane , so while they didnt have a great lovestory the impact of it on emiliano and ines was very important especially on ines.

Completely agree. Even tho it wasn't the destined love, it was still a beautiful hopeful love since Ines had a moment of happiness with the fact that she was able to form a family and escape from the abuse then. I actually really love Ines and Emiliano together, it's just sad that they didn't have the basic necessities to live properly and plus being chased after because of Oscar.

It is just another highlight of how Ines was stupid for timeline 1, timeline 2, timeline 3, and even in the present timeline 4, Ines continues being an idiot lol.

Imagine having 2 times lines worth of memories and NOT utilizing them properly. Especially in timeline 4. She went all the way back to childhood yet sis just spends it wallowing in grief and trauma for 10+ years without really planning anything except ruining Carcels life because "Oh it's okay to mess up his life and reputation because he was a playboy in my previous life, teehee". She doesn't even really have a plan beyond divorcing Carcel lmao. If the Crown Prince is as obsessed with her as she claims, being divorced isn't going to stop him from doing whatever he can to posess her.

Not at all. I agree about the memory part and that she kinda could've made a better plan that can succeed and support her in the future but about everything else you said I completely disagree. She didn't ruin anything of Carcel's, he did it to himself by doing what he wanted without thinking. Or maybe he did all that because he thought he could somehow bite back Ines because she chose him as her fiancee. The plan after that was quite simple. The crown prince can't take a divorcee as a crown princess. The maximum he could do was make her a mistress but to play that part the other person (ines) has to agree too, that can't be forced...orrr he could imprison her but that's just idk i don't think he would go that far cuz he would need a reason. At least that's what i think, because it's different if she'd stayed single. That way the royals can order a political marriage and force Ines to marry him. That's why she wanted to marry someone of a higher standing but also that can divorce later on. Aka a player. If i was Ines after all that abuse i'd probably give myself 2 options. The 1st- leave the country and start a new life and the 2nd- the same thing she's doing now.

1. The crown prince can totally force Ines into being his mistress. She wasn't even a virgin when her family brought her back in timeline 2 because of the Crown Prince. Such naivety. As long as he remains crown prince there isn't anything he can't do. In the timeline before Emiliano's, She was crown princess and got STDs because of the crown prince. He graped her and refused to let her go even though he was cheating. He is a depraved human being.

2. Ines did try to ruin Carcel's life because she was too consumed with her own. She did it to Emiliano too. I'm not going to discuss their own involvement because this comment section seems to be all Ines simps when she is as horrible as every other character in this story. In the first place, she forced their engagement when they were kids without his consent. On the second note, her divorce would have created a scandal that would tarnish his family reputation. Nobles do not divorce. It was already stated in the world building of this story. Idk why so many of you dismissed that. Third, her entire plan is based on the fact that he would cheat on her and be unfaithful so she could divorce him, THAT is the only thing she is relying on to become a divorce LMAO. She goads and encourages his cheating.

3. In all, Ines would have failed in Timeline 4 as well. The only thing saving this girl from failure is Carcel's love for her and Plot Armor.

I'm gonna reply to the numbers so it would be easier to understand haha and it's probably gonna be a long reply, i'm so sorry for that
1. I still think it would be harder if she is a divorcee than her being single, so that's why I approve of her wanting to get married. And the life she had with the crown prince was just disgusting but again, being a divorcee it's not the same as being single in my opinion. Like i would rate it single, widow, divorcee on a scale from being easy to hard. So even as a widow, it would be easier to control her because the husband is not alive. She would still get shamed if she goes to the crown prince but it would be much worse if she'd be a divorcee. And since Carcel is a high standing noble it's not gonna be that easy to make his wishes true, plus they're related also. But yea, i can kinda understand your point of view on this.

2. I actually still stand on my opinion that she didn't destroy Carcel's life with anything. At that age kids can't give or take consents they express wishes and realistically the parents at the end are deciding. But since they wouldn't be losing anything by being related to Ines's family they agreed on the political marriage then. Then on the second note of what you said- yes that would've created a scandal but only if Carcel stayed true to his behaviour which was him being a player, Ines just wanted to take advantage of his behaviour thinking he would stay the same cuz he didn't stay celibate until it was time to get married and the only reason he stayed loyal after that was because he fell in love with her, so technically again she didn't and wouldn't have destroyed anything in Carcel's life since that would've been his own primal behaviour. The third note yes, that's the only reason she's encouraging it because that's also the only way she can escape Oscars hands, by being a divorcee. Royals can't take divorcee's as legal wives and as far as we can see Oscar wants Ines to be his wife.

3. I don't have an opinion on this yet haha so idk. But because they both fell in love each other and also have knowledge from their past lives it's gonna be a little more different since now there are two thinking heads instead of only one. So Carcel now knowing the past events, he's gonna become even more protective of her in my opinion and it's gonna be different even from their 1st life because of the gained memories so they'll be far more prepared than their past lives.

I can see your pov and appreciate how you aren't attacking my pov. But I do have to say, you are thinking of it from the perspective that the Crown Prince wants Ines as a wife when it has been proven he has gotten away with worse and would have settled for her being a secret mistress.

He can sleep with prostitutes from the red light district (where he got the STDS and infected Ines) and get away with it. No one batted an eye and expected her to do better. So while she would never be his wife legally, he has the means to force her to be in a much worse position now that she is a divorcee and no one would really care because she just made herself a social outcast. No noble would associate or even dare help her. And in Ines's own pov, her family would not be supporting her. Even in the latest chapter we see her mom as vain and image loving. The Crown Prince is also good at hiding his debauchery as proven from the past life. So would anyone even really know Ines is a victim? They would view her much like they viewed the American who married Queen Elizabeth's uncle and made him addicted for her.

It is this story's saving grace I guess that it did not want to go that route and just glosses it over as the perfect plan.

It's a possibility i guess.. i honestly can't wait to see what the crown prince has planned cuz from some spoilers (even tho i didn't want to know anything about this manhwa but still unwantedly saw them) i understood that he also has his memories. So it would be kinda exciting to see how they will fight.

Well I won't spoil what I know because it has shaped my opinions.

I will end this with saying though that the Manwha glosses over alot of the toxic actions done by Ines. It portrays her in a better light than the novel does. Ines is also a horrible narrator. She is not reliable and her pov doesn't show the full story, onyl how she perceives it to be.

In the novel and the current timeline, Ines specifically chooses Carcel because of his "playboy" reputation (also why I don't get why people hated Carcel at the beginning and blame him for cheating before their marriage if the two were not romantically involved and she wanted a cheater in the first place). But she also chooses him because she knows he is STD Free and clean. He is not a freak like Oscar. They gloss this over in the manwha.

From childhood, Ines love bombs Carcel. She tells him she loves him and sends him love letters and chases him around. She hopes to freak him out and condition him to think this is overbearing. Then suddenly, when Carcel decides to get to know Ines and his feelings for her are starting to emerge, she shut him out. She stops all communications, refuses to see him, etc. She's also constantly calling him a playboy and similar terms. This is all lost in translations from Korean to English as well as they cut alot of it from the Manwha. Ines is also making the world think Carcel is the one dragging their engagement and not marrying her. When in fact, she is ignoring, avoiding, and distancing herself. This all started when they were 6 years old. (It's kind of creepy when you realize Ines is mentally older and Carcel is still 6 mentally).