I’m not usually a fan of ML sweeping in and saving MC like a knight in shining armor (lol) when MC is doing his best to make things work but his living circumstances really are too poor. Is really remembering things earlier (while still being forced to take the sus medication), while being relentlessly abused by Lister when he just flips a switch and decides he wants to hurt him really for the best? As we know Lister isn’t ”crazy” (the way MC is) or sum, he just enjoys abusing him. While with ML he could be safe and sound and just focusing on recovering. Lister and his mom might crash out but that to me seems like a win on ML’s part.
Having MC being a former noble/important leading figure, now serving as a slave, I feel like it must’ve been MC’s decision or will in the first place, a calculated move for the sake of what they’re trying to achieve, to become both a slave and losing his memory. That ML probably opposed to it but, disregarding their feelings, it really was the best of not only way.
While MC might get some intel, he probably won’t even understand what it means, he regains his memories faster (still requiring taking them to lose his memory hoping he would come to his senses and stop) but how are they so sure he’ll even make it out alive? Lister’s mother seem to feel guilt about the slave thing, but turns a blind eye to most of the quite obvious abuse, while Lister just enjoys hurting him and establishing control through ”I’ll show you how easy it is for me to hurt you so when I’m not you should be greatful” manipulation. Some seem to think the mother truly has good intentions, while I do think she’s doing what she thinks is best I feel like if he had to choose between backing up MC or backing up Lister, she would always choose her son. That she knows he’s not a good person but thinks it’s not really his fault or that deep down he means well but has a hard time expressing it. Or is simply to dangerous to oppose him and she just wants to choose the safest most convenient way for herself. Either way, she’s clearly scared and opposed to MC regaining his memories and she and Lister were definitely involved in how he became a slave in a way they don’t want anyone to find out about.
The ML doesn’t know about the abuse, bc MC won’t tell him. But because he knows him I feel like he probably knows that logically ML should be treated poorly because of his status and if he was he wouldn’t tell him because that’s the type of person he is. They were lovers MC is so painfully clear someone who would bottle things up, doing everything he can before even thinking of asking for help. But maybe that was all part of the plan too, included in the calculations. He seems to have been a figure of authority, respected, smart, wanting to help people, and he and ML seem to have been the like the leaders of the group. MC seem to to have been just as strong of a character as MC, if not even more if he’s the one with the ideas and ML is his supporting knight, and now he’s truly the opposite and has been reduced the embodiment of weak, scared, and having mental breakdowns losing his mind. None of this is of course not his fault. While he probably will find his own strength in body and mind and piece everything together, it truly was a big price to pay. I truly feel that the only reason ML doesn’t just rescue him is because he’s unknowingly there willingly because I feel like ML treasures him too much to put him there like a chess piece if his own scheme.
Also, nothing will EVER make me like with Lister, or sympathize with him enough that I feel his actions are justified. To be frank, and graphic, I just feel like the intrigue between them is just ”will he r*pe him or not”. Just seeing him gives me anxiety. Somehow his twisted mind interpret MC’s inability to resist (because of the power he holds over him both physically and socially) as Mc not truly disliking him and that means there is a possibility that he deep down also likes him. Can MC please save himself from this horrible place and ML can save him from Lister, what would be nice.
I don’t know, I don’t want spoilers I just wanted to vent. The artstyle and the story is really good and interesting. I’m ranting because I care and I care because I like it.
I’m not usually a fan of ML sweeping in and saving MC like a knight in shining armor (lol) when MC is doing his best to make things work but his living circumstances really are too poor. Is really remembering things earlier (while still being forced to take the sus medication), while being relentlessly abused by Lister when he just flips a switch and decides he wants to hurt him really for the best? As we know Lister isn’t ”crazy” (the way MC is) or sum, he just enjoys abusing him. While with ML he could be safe and sound and just focusing on recovering. Lister and his mom might crash out but that to me seems like a win on ML’s part.
Having MC being a former noble/important leading figure, now serving as a slave, I feel like it must’ve been MC’s decision or will in the first place, a calculated move for the sake of what they’re trying to achieve, to become both a slave and losing his memory. That ML probably opposed to it but, disregarding their feelings, it really was the best of not only way.
While MC might get some intel, he probably won’t even understand what it means, he regains his memories faster (still requiring taking them to lose his memory hoping he would come to his senses and stop) but how are they so sure he’ll even make it out alive? Lister’s mother seem to feel guilt about the slave thing, but turns a blind eye to most of the quite obvious abuse, while Lister just enjoys hurting him and establishing control through ”I’ll show you how easy it is for me to hurt you so when I’m not you should be greatful” manipulation. Some seem to think the mother truly has good intentions, while I do think she’s doing what she thinks is best I feel like if he had to choose between backing up MC or backing up Lister, she would always choose her son. That she knows he’s not a good person but thinks it’s not really his fault or that deep down he means well but has a hard time expressing it. Or is simply to dangerous to oppose him and she just wants to choose the safest most convenient way for herself. Either way, she’s clearly scared and opposed to MC regaining his memories and she and Lister were definitely involved in how he became a slave in a way they don’t want anyone to find out about.
The ML doesn’t know about the abuse, bc MC won’t tell him. But because he knows him I feel like he probably knows that logically ML should be treated poorly because of his status and if he was he wouldn’t tell him because that’s the type of person he is. They were lovers MC is so painfully clear someone who would bottle things up, doing everything he can before even thinking of asking for help. But maybe that was all part of the plan too, included in the calculations. He seems to have been a figure of authority, respected, smart, wanting to help people, and he and ML seem to have been the like the leaders of the group. MC seem to to have been just as strong of a character as MC, if not even more if he’s the one with the ideas and ML is his supporting knight, and now he’s truly the opposite and has been reduced the embodiment of weak, scared, and having mental breakdowns losing his mind. None of this is of course not his fault. While he probably will find his own strength in body and mind and piece everything together, it truly was a big price to pay. I truly feel that the only reason ML doesn’t just rescue him is because he’s unknowingly there willingly because I feel like ML treasures him too much to put him there like a chess piece if his own scheme.
Also, nothing will EVER make me like with Lister, or sympathize with him enough that I feel his actions are justified. To be frank, and graphic, I just feel like the intrigue between them is just ”will he r*pe him or not”. Just seeing him gives me anxiety. Somehow his twisted mind interpret MC’s inability to resist (because of the power he holds over him both physically and socially) as Mc not truly disliking him and that means there is a possibility that he deep down also likes him. Can MC please save himself from this horrible place and ML can save him from Lister, what would be nice.
I don’t know, I don’t want spoilers I just wanted to vent. The artstyle and the story is really good and interesting. I’m ranting because I care and I care because I like it.