not that i don't like joseph to be the ml. but i prefer erez bec he has some character and...

I dont really like golden retriever type ML especially those that are like Joseph. I saw quite a lot of those Korean webtoon where the tyrant turned into golden retriever energy once the romance starts. Sick of those personality switch. I also seen quite a lot of golden retriever ML that is not from tyrant storyline. This is breath of fresh air. I prefer fox like ML that likes to tease MC.

Sorry for my rant

no worries lmao valid point though. i can see where you coming from.

Thanks haha glad you are open to my opinions. Apparently I learnt that Korea girls like golden retriever guys so that explains why theres so many in manhwa but i just feel like the personality change from a tyrant character to a golden retriever character is like an entire different person although and beats the purpose to writing him to be a tyrant in the first place

Ah typo from altogether to although

it's kind of like gap moe, no? lolol but sometimes the transition is just good for some. like how they're only sweet to their partner but hard on others. not the same?

To me its rarely written correctly without feeling out of place. Like the tyrant is suddenly replaced by a entirely different person. Like its done better in BL/chinese romance than KR straight romance manhwa.

Yes its nice to see the ML only doting on the FL but to see his core personality disappearing after the romance happens just feels out of place. And then suddenly the ML is some useless person that is at the FL's beck and call like a golden retriever.

I hope i explained myself better its a very strong pet peeve of mine

Will it be easier to convey my point if I use a cat and a dog as a comparison?

Like your character is a cat but suddenly when the romance happens it became a dog all of a sudden?

the way you’re so passionate about this… i can feel your pet peeve for real. and yes, the cat/dog comparison is accurate. i can see the picture now clearly.

indeed i am, quite unfortunately. i was just born to dislike golden retriever guys they can be too much of a simp in extreme cases. i mean of coz the ML doting their love is important but not in a simp way if u get wat i mean.

i get it. sometimes it tends to get cringey with all the golden retriever type of ml to the point it’s suffocating LMAO

Ikr! Happy that u get my pov

For some reason my sentence seems to cut off from here.

Theres this KR manhwa i was reading where the guy was abit cold in the beginning but have been the one to help the FL whenever shes in trouble. Then all of a sudden when the romance kinda happens, the FL sees the guy like a dog and even ask for his hand/paw (legit a paw not a hand) and ive never seen this where a guy ask a girl's hand (paw) like a dog before if the role were reverse. Why did he become a dog all of a sudden! When previously he didnt have that kinda golden retriever energy! I dropped that story the moment that happened. It was so cringey and whatever personality he used to have is now a dog and turned into a simp

whoa that's a turn off right there. i'd drop it too if that was me lmao

I feel like they want a simp more than a golden retriever guy. Legit the guy acted like a simp and a literal dog

AJGKLAJ fitting for a couple that's into that kind of play ig

I would have understand if the guy acting like a dog and a simp is relevant to the story but nope its not and have nothing to do with it at all

true. it’s like a whiplash whenever it happens all of a sudden. this isn’t anime

Have u encountered this type before? I feel like i have my fair share of these. Esp when the author really wanna get a girl boss but dont know how to write an equal relationship/power dynamics

quite a few i guess. some i really didn’t notice until we’re discussing about it so i remembered like some realization hits

Ohh so theres times u felt frustrated and/or annoyed but cant really describe why?