Times have changed

Shirayuki August 20, 2025 8:56 pm

Every time I come back to read the comments here, I realize all over again how fandom and tastes have changed over time. Like there are a shit ton of stories with problematic characters that are super famous and loved, yet somehow always hated on when it comes to the new gen readers. I don’t wanna call it the woke wave but it kinda is. People are so less tolerant towards shitty characters nowadays and feel the need to be vocal about it when really, it’s not a matter of morality but taste. If this story was published like ten years ago, I swear it definitely wouldn’t be getting as many hate comments as now because it would be considered a normal entertaining trope for some and those who didn’t like it would just move on and find something else instead of debating about it all over the place lol

Responses
    BaLdHiSoKa August 20, 2025 10:48 pm

    And what is the problem with people voicing their own opinions on how shitty a shitty character is?

    akki August 21, 2025 3:55 am

    so you're a rape apologist? got it.

    Shirayuki August 21, 2025 6:54 am
    so you're a rape apologist? got it. akki

    Amazing how people can misconstrue literally anything you say these days lmfao where in my comment did I even talk about rape or defending jaekyung?

    Shirayuki August 21, 2025 7:00 am
    And what is the problem with people voicing their own opinions on how shitty a shitty character is? BaLdHiSoKa

    Nothing. Again, I’m just talking about the change in comment trends from being actual story reviews to just social media forum style rant. But it does sound ridiculous and annoying considering some keep returning again and again to leave the same comments about how this character or that character is bad and whatever when clearly, they ARE enjoying the story because they haven’t dropped it yet lol

    Coolgums August 21, 2025 8:26 am
    so you're a rape apologist? got it. akki

    Where did op say that rape is okay?

    Shiki August 21, 2025 12:22 pm

    Thanks for speaking
    But bro look at those dumb responses lmaooo

    Death the kid August 21, 2025 6:25 pm

    HEREE WE GO AGAIN. Woke this woke that, ITS RAPE! A STORY THAT GLAMORIZES RAPISTSSSSSS!!! GET THAT IN YOUR FUCKING SKULLLLL!! Fucking braindead idiots. Whether you like it or not, it’s insane to complain about people calling out a story for what it is. Call it what you want, but my morals encompasses even the fictional world, that’s how it should be, if not, then there’s clearly something wrong with your morality. Stupid fuck.

    Shiki August 21, 2025 6:59 pm
    HEREE WE GO AGAIN. Woke this woke that, ITS RAPE! A STORY THAT GLAMORIZES RAPISTSSSSSS!!! GET THAT IN YOUR FUCKING SKULLLLL!! Fucking braindead idiots. Whether you like it or not, it’s insane to complain abou... Death the kid

    Ah yes, here we go again with the self-proclaimed morality police screaming at pixels on a page. Btch, don't tell me what to read and how. You’re acting like fiction is out here committing crimes in real life. Newsflash: it’s fiction. Nobody’s ‘glamorizing’ anything, unless you seriously can’t tell the difference between storytelling and real life. That’s a you problem, not a ‘society collapsing’ problem.

    You don’t get to force your personal morality on everyone else just because a story makes you uncomfortable. If your brain short-circuits over characters and plots, maybe just don’t read it? The rest of us can handle separating reality from fiction without spiraling into performative outrage. Touch grass, breathe, and remember : it’s literally not that deep

    Shirayuki August 21, 2025 7:15 pm
    HEREE WE GO AGAIN. Woke this woke that, ITS RAPE! A STORY THAT GLAMORIZES RAPISTSSSSSS!!! GET THAT IN YOUR FUCKING SKULLLLL!! Fucking braindead idiots. Whether you like it or not, it’s insane to complain abou... Death the kid

    A story’s purpose is to tell a story. Doesn’t matter what content it has. It’s not a book’s responsibility to teach you morals. That’s your parent’s job. Good for you for saying rape is bad which, btw, is sth literally everyone who enjoys this manhwa knows. They’re not reading the story because they enjoy rape or think it’s good. They’re reading it because it’s a story with a plot and entertaining characters. It’s not that deep. And I swear to god everyone who enjoys this story does not glorify rape in real life lmfao

    If you can’t separate between fiction and reality, and insult actual real people for being able to do so, that’s all on you my friend. Your morality is the one that’s messed up if you’re going as far as calling people names for reading a fictional made up story that hurts no one.

    Death the kid August 21, 2025 8:44 pm
    Ah yes, here we go again with the self-proclaimed morality police screaming at pixels on a page. Btch, don't tell me what to read and how. You’re acting like fiction is out here committing crimes in real life... Shiki

    “Can’t tell the difference between storytelling and real life” look who’s talking. The same bitch who thinks some pixels on a screen prevents them from having the same morals they perpetuate in real life. Oh i’m sorry, that I don’t like supporting rapist characters and stories that justify their characters. I’m sorry i’m such a woke baby in this generation that cares about fuckass rapists stories that people seem to glamorize. I’m sorry, I don’t condone bitchass fuckers like you who think they have some sort higher ground when talking about fictional stories and how were supposed to interpret it just bc they’re old as fuck. Fuckers like you would sit down and read child porn just to get off and say “its just fictional” like the dumb bitch you are.

    Death the kid August 21, 2025 8:50 pm
    A story’s purpose is to tell a story. Doesn’t matter what content it has. It’s not a book’s responsibility to teach you morals. That’s your parent’s job. Good for you for saying rape is bad which, b... Shirayuki

    So, when I go in this site, and read child porn, a story that clearly is about pedophelia but is romanticize to the point that people don’t care anymore and keep reading it like a “normal” story, that does make my morality fucked up? Cause rn, my dude, you’re the one who sounds like someone who needs an awful lot of thinking. Because while you’re replying to me about my hurtful wittle words, there’s a bunch of people who reads this shit and thinks “oh that’s not rape cause he’s gonna have a character developement

    Shiki August 21, 2025 11:32 pm
    “Can’t tell the difference between storytelling and real life” look who’s talking. The same bitch who thinks some pixels on a screen prevents them from having the same morals they perpetuate in real lif... Death the kid

    It seems like all we wrote above goes over your head lmaoooo I suggest you calmly reread my comment and take time to think, proving how dumbfk you are ^^
    You equating reading a dark story to committing crimes is like saying playing GTA makes you a serial k. See how ridiculous that sounds? If a piece of fiction rattles you this much, close the tab and move on instead of barking.
    Ppl can discuss and enjoy stories without your crusade of performative morality. It’s fiction, not a criminal confession. Chill.
    How old are you? If your underage, gtfo here, I'm not wasting my time with you, but if you're an adult... Cringing yourself.

    Shiki August 21, 2025 11:47 pm
    So, when I go in this site, and read child porn, a story that clearly is about pedophelia but is romanticize to the point that people don’t care anymore and keep reading it like a “normal” story, that doe... Death the kid

    Ah, there it is XDDD the nuclear ‘child porn’ comparison. It's called "Shouta" btw. You’re proving my point, you can’t separate fictional genres from reality, so you go full moral crusader mode. It exists whether you like it or not. If you really cared, you’d go after the authors or publishers instead of cosplaying as a hero online. Screaming on forums isn’t activism, it’s just noise. Either act IRL for your causes or admit you’re just here for the drama
    Fiction exists, dark genres exist, and you don’t get to burn the entire library because one shelf makes you uncomfortable.

    Shirayuki August 22, 2025 6:49 am
    So, when I go in this site, and read child porn, a story that clearly is about pedophelia but is romanticize to the point that people don’t care anymore and keep reading it like a “normal” story, that doe... Death the kid

    Mate, there is absolutely not a bunch of people who think it’s not rape because he gets character development. You’re just pushing your ideals and delusions onto others at this point. The people you claim to hate don’t even exist. No one is glorifying rape, no one enjoys pedo content because they are pedos, and no one reads dark genre thinking that’s the kind of relationship they want in real life. It’s literally all in your head. So I don’t know how to break it to you, but the people you abhor don’t actually exist. Just say you don’t like the story because it’s uncomfortable for you. It’s that simple.

    Doppye August 22, 2025 12:28 pm

    I 100% concur.

    They are beginning to infiltrate other old series that was once beloved and it confuses older readers. It is the "woke" propaganda that feeds them nonsense and since the internet (in America) has little to 0 regulation and the mods aren't really watching, it's a free for all.

    The 2nd half of Gen Z and the new generation shouldn't be reading this material in the first place, but they are. You can usually tell based on their comments and behavior. It gives "attention seeking" vibes.

    Honestly, we the avid reader who genuinely like and analyze what we read, or simply turn our mind off and just read for fun, do not have entertain them everytime because it's what they want. And if you do, hit them with logic they can't comprehend.

    Doppye August 22, 2025 12:41 pm
    And what is the problem with people voicing their own opinions on how shitty a shitty character is? BaLdHiSoKa

    Not everything is considered "voicing your opinion". This are terms like "disrupting the peace", "insightment of violence", and even "false narrative". They are not considered opinions.

    Disagreeing with a person or 2 is considered an "opinion", disagreeing a 50-60% of a fandom (which can be in the millions) and saying out-of-pocket nonsense is "disturbing the peace".

    Just because "you're free you say what you want", doesn't mean you should. There are ways to covey and articulate your thoughts and share it with the community without being a nuisance.

    But I'm just voicing my opinion.

    Doppye August 22, 2025 12:42 pm
    Amazing how people can misconstrue literally anything you say these days lmfao where in my comment did I even talk about rape or defending jaekyung? Shirayuki

    It baffles me as well. Logos must've stepped out to get milk.

    Doppye August 22, 2025 12:53 pm
    HEREE WE GO AGAIN. Woke this woke that, ITS RAPE! A STORY THAT GLAMORIZES RAPISTSSSSSS!!! GET THAT IN YOUR FUCKING SKULLLLL!! Fucking braindead idiots. Whether you like it or not, it’s insane to complain abou... Death the kid

    I don't believe you are serious here based on the way you're replying. You're overselling it to fit a narrative and it shows.

    Weather you truly believe the words you shared or not, it's obvious that you aren't really serious about what you're saying.

    I've seen enough of the same regurgitated talking points to get the sense when someone is serious or not.

    But that's just my intuition.

    Doppye August 22, 2025 12:58 pm
    So, when I go in this site, and read child porn, a story that clearly is about pedophelia but is romanticize to the point that people don’t care anymore and keep reading it like a “normal” story, that doe... Death the kid

    These backhand examples are strange. You know the answer. But here's my question:

    How do you know there's CP on this site? How do you know it exists on here? The only way you could find is if you yourself searched it. Why are you searching for it? To prove a point or...

    Doppye August 22, 2025 1:02 pm
    Mate, there is absolutely not a bunch of people who think it’s not rape because he gets character development. You’re just pushing your ideals and delusions onto others at this point. The people you claim t... Shirayuki

    It's simple, indeed.