
proper consensual non consent requires both parties to discuss the non consent first. it’s an act where both parties, but the perpetrator especially, play a part. this top here isn’t or wasn’t at that moment playing a part in a healthy cnc play. he went batshit on his own cause he’s possessive and can’t take a “i want to break up”.

some of you really need to take your yaoi glasses off for a second and look at this from a different perspective. person A is sitting there and they say they want to break up, and their partner - person B - suddenly changes their whole demeanor saying things like “you’re mine, i won’t allow it”. then person B rips open person A’s clothes, pushes them down and kisses them. that doesn’t seem rapey to you?

yeah cuz its a fictional smut. you'd not think of learning proper sex education where characters discuss things at length before delving into it physically in a kinky fantasy bl would you? you're thinking about this too deeply lol the point of this manga is about the bottom feeling like smtg is lacking with the soft loving sex with his man and he was presented with a change in the narrative aka the possesive nasty disrespectful sex, readers know it is smtg he wanted and enjoy and its not shameful to explore that feelings hence the cnc dynamic

I dont think that u could use that hypothetical example cuz its 500 years of them being together he doesn't remember but still knows how deep their love runs so way more years we could ever imagine of knowing someone to go so far as to "mark" him through every lifetime yeah I'd imagine that person would go ballistic knowing theyre willing to go that far for you

cool. you brought up cnc and i’m saying it doesn’t apply to this dynamic because it wasn’t actually consensual, so where does that leave us? and how deeply am i thinking about it when the assault is black on white in front of my eyes? like… i’m legit just talking about what i’ve read and seen. a man assaulted another man and now people relativize it by calling it possessive nasty disrespectful sex lmao i hate this website

yeah that was the point and im not a puritan bro i read rapey yaois too, its just funny how you get mad when you see someone doesn't like rape and call them puritan. its a pretty normal thing to dislike HOW can i be a puritan for disliking RAPE yall sound crazy fr you should take a break from yaois and socialize

This started a whole thing. The reason I said it didnt feel totally was the ukes reaction. If it was someone who didnt want it and said nooo! And fought off then yes, rape, rape! This lays in the dubious consent to me. More like a red/beige flag warning of the seme needing to check himself before he gets too toxic. But the uke himself didnt act like he felt like a victim, didnt say he felt raped, was not mad at him, and uniquely still loves and actively wants to keep having sex with the seme. They are a unique couple, so its more like, kinks and all aside, while how the seme reacted is a red flad toxic sign, if the uke doesnt feel raped, then why do we call it rape? I would tag this “orange flag possessive seme” and “dubious consent” for trigger warnings, but not rape. Because i like tagging since some people have trauma and dont want to read rape rape. I like adding trigger warnings. I myself have a personal list of manga i refuse to finish or read because its rape, nothing but rape, no matter how pretty the art is, and thats not for me. And while the action, based on a black and white Person A and Person B setting is bad, its bad. In the end this isnt a Person A and Person B story, its a story with detailed descriptions of the characters emotions and feelings for eachother. We know what they are thinking. And they do not fit the Person A and Person B scenario. Because we have details so we have to think about it with the details. But, in the end our traumas and tastes matter so like, yes, dubious consent and the uke needs to stop being rosy minded and have a proper conversation with the seme, he is the 600 year old adult here, and let him know not to do that like that again, you know, learn peoper communication.
love the elf (he’s so pretty) but hate the sudden switch of the prince. giving him literal rapist vibes just to spice up the sex gave the whole thing a bitter after taste