Bro who’s writing these stories 😭 bro abused the ML a million times without questioni...

This is typical yaoi, a well known trope -_- stop complaining if it's not for you, just don't reading it.

Then dont read the comment lmao they can write and do whatever tf they want

Yeah, but what if you start by not READING the manhwa huh? This comment section is full of haters, everything except discussion, constructive critics, exchange opinions, I don't give a fk if it's not for you, you're just a hater that has nothing to do here. If you can’t handle someone defending the story, maybe stick to screaming into a diary instead of the comment section. I'mma clean tf out of you of this comment section. Mark my word.

There actually were constructive criticism and everything you just wasn’t here when it happened. I mean the hate is valid too even if it’s a regular trope it’s still disgusting

Bruh...this is NOT the story to fall on a sword for

people can have better things to do than engage in media they genuinely dislike

we're 70+ chapters deep, if they really hated it they would've been gone yesterday lol

Bro, I’m pretty sure I started reading Yaoi when your ass was still in the crib.

I’ve actually witnessed how Yaoi has changed over the past decades and how the portrayal of toxic love has influenced people I know, shaping their ideas of what’s romantic and what’s not.

Liking or interacting with a certain type of media doesn’t mean you can’t critique it or cringe while consuming it, lmao. It’s actually important so that artists and society can grow.

Oh, I remember when rape was portrayed as normal in BL and honestly it still is in a lot of Yaoi but we’re in a time now where homosexual men are tired of being fetishized or depicted as abusive or happy in abusive relationships as if they’re all idiots.

It’s honestly kind of worrying how many women consume depictions of rape and toxic relationships and feel good about it, even though they would never wish that on anyone in real life.

There are people who willingly consume bad movies or react to bad music. Negative emotions are also a form of entertainment. And honestly it’s good when people feel bad seeing romanticized abuse.

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low IQ ? Or Just ADHD ?

Ah seems like my essay didn't get to you, I'll try rewriting that hold on, btch.

Started yaoi before me? I don't think so lol also that doesn't make you some sage of morality, anyway we're not gonna argue about that since neither you, nor I, have time to play this childish game, so keep your statements to yourself.

As for the ppl I know, this kind of media never influenced them nor me. If others do, then mb, they maybe retards or underage little girls. Coz read who's the target audience to these contents.
Yeah yeah, people can enjoy media critically, cringe at it, and still have a healthy understanding of what’s real versus fantasy. End of story.

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Now, here>> I'm still wondering about what's bad about what you just said here "It’s honestly kind of worrying how many women consume depictions of ràpe and toxic relationships and feel good about it, even though they would never wish that on anyone in real life" so develop pls, cause that right and that's good, people costume what they want, as long as they don't hurt others of think that's reality... Telling women they shouldn’t enjoy something because it portrays abuse is a bit rich, considering how men consume all sorts of trash in media and nobody bats an eye.

-_- bruh wdym by bad movies Lmaooo this discussion makes no sense wtf? What makes a bad movie?? Conjuring? The None? Are bad movies? Maybe The Cabinet in the Woods is a bad movie... Buruuuuuuuhhh.

Yeah, your replies show me that I’m dealing with an idiot.

1. I mentioned how long I’ve been reading BL because, several comments ago, you tried to explain to me that this is “common” in BL. I know bro, I’ve been reading on this Plattform for 10 years and in the years before when Yaoi manga (as books) were more common.

2. I never claimed that I’m “morally superior” or anything like that just because I’m older or have probably been reading BL longer than you’ve been breathing. I mentioned my experience to show how I’ve seen the Yaoi fandom develop over time, and how criticism and disgust for certain tropes are becoming more common.

3. It’s nice for you that you don’t know anyone influenced by media like Yaoi, BL, or romance. I’m a science student, so I often read papers on all kinds of topics, and there’s scientific evidence that women adapt their ideas of romance from dark romance, porn, and other media. In the same way, minor-attracted men are more likely to commit crimes when they consume CP, or men are more likely to act violently when they consume violent porn.

It’s not the case for every single individual, but it does happen. I literally know two girls who suffered abuse in relationships. One experienced rape, while the other experienced mental abuse. Both read Yaoi manga. They are now in therapy, dealing with trauma symptoms, but at the time they didn’t realize what happened was actually abuse until others pointed it out. Maybe they were just slow, but considering they both read Yaoi and the research on this topic, it’s actually quite likely they didn’t recognize it because they had normalized or romanticized such behavior. They’re both grown women, by the way.

4. Yes, women should also be able to watch rape and violence (I guess) and fetishize homosexual sex—it’s fine as long as it stays in the realm of fantasy. But my point wasn’t that it should be forbidden or that it makes someone a bad person. My point is that in any space where such content exists, there should also be room for critique. People should be able to laugh, cry, get angry, complain, or enjoy media without someone else telling them to “shut up,” and most people actually agree with me.

5. I used bad movies as an example. Low-budget movies, propaganda movies, indie movies, poorly written movies—they all exist. There’s a whole section on YouTube where people react to so-called “bad movies,” which are basically just movies nobody likes. People watch these movies and express frustration, anger, cringe, or laughter—and that’s exactly the point. There are also German TV formats, and I think international ones too, where “bad movies” are shown purely for entertainment purposes (of course, usually in English). Yaoi/manga is a form of entertainment, and it’s supposed to create all kinds of reactions. How small must your brain be to get angry at someone criticizing a manhwa or even the character in a fictional work?

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No way I'm gonna read all this sh!t, I apologize not having time for you like you do for me, I really do. So here a chatgpt answer, feel free to read it or not idgaf :


"Oh please, spare me the TED Talk. You can dress it up with “10 years in the fandom” and “science student” credentials all you want, but you’re still just ranting about pixels like they’re corrupting the youth. Citing your BL reading experience like it’s a PhD is hilarious—congrats, you’ve been mad online longer than most people had internet.

Dragging your friends’ trauma into this as some kind of “proof” is honestly gross. People being abused in real life isn’t because of manga panels—it’s because of actual abusers. Blaming fiction for their pain is the same tired pearl-clutching logic people used to scream “video games cause violence.” It was weak then, and it’s weak now.

And acting like critique is being silenced? Get real. You wrote an essay that could put a college professor to sleep. No one’s stopping you from whining, they’re just pointing out how ridiculous your moral panic sounds. You don’t sound like a champion of free speech—you sound like the YouTube comment section of a “think of the children” PSA"

Hi, png.

“You’re just a hater… I’mma clean tf out of you… Mark my word.”
Lmao, idk what you think you’re doing. If you think you “cleaned me out,” congrats I guess, but your whole reply is just emotions while I’m literally bringing evidence.

I never said my friends were at fault for their abuse. When did I say that? Quote me. What I actually said was they didn’t even recognize that what they went through was rape or mental violence. People can adapt to violence and get desensitized, that’s just a fact.

“This comment section is full of haters…” bro, that’s literally the point. Crying and whining because people hate, criticize or laugh about your favorite piece of fictional rape and mental torture is pointless and unhealthy. You can read whatever you want, but you can’t stop others from reacting. Get over it.

And yeah, you clearly read my “essay,” since you desperately tried to counter points I backed with studies and anecdotes, while just throwing emotional stuff at me.

End of the day it doesn’t even matter. People also comment under porn, so why shouldn’t they do the same about “a few pixels.” What’s rich is you getting this mad over my tiny, funny comment.

People will criticize and laugh about this fucking story for ever and it’s funny asf, I have fun while reading the comments of other people.

Funniest part? I was never mad. You were. And nobody else here even agrees with you.