I'm agree with you. Seijin literally do anything so the so called family will recognize him even tho he knew they will never.
The worst part is how far he was willing to go just so he could have a roof over his head and food in his belly. Because honestly, his family never loved him from the start and he knew it. He needed a place to return to in case things like went wrong. But I doubt he ever once believed that what he was doing would make his father love him.
I have the same thoughts. The intent of the author is to make us sympathize with Sejin and portray him in the light of a victim, but I end up thinking more about how self centered Sejin is. I suppose it’s because despite Sejin going through abuse, he still was able to live a life free from financial burden and poverty, so he didn’t understand the gravity of the situation and was willing to do the same thing again. In my eyes, Sejin is like a villain too but only to those who know what it means to lose financial stability.
In conclusion, all of them are villains in one way or another to me. I can’t root for either of them. I know they are meant to be together because this is a novel adaptation but man, this comic made me introspect a bit even though that probably wasn’t the intention of the author lmao-
I was dying to talk about this ever since the flashback started, but I wasn't in the mood for people shitting on me for a fictional character. Lol
I agree with what you said, and also, I don't believe that Sejin was completely free of fault about the Kwon Ijung situation. Of course, blaming the victim is wrong, but Ido's reaction was also kinda understandable. What he did was wrong on so many levels, I'm not gonna deny that, but I don't believe that Ido's the only one at fault here.
At fault for what? Getting raped???? Tf.
Let’s see, for being a corporate spy, deception, lies, causing mass financial harm to a company based on selfish reasons, and ultimately leading others to suffer in his place so he himself can avoid not having the financial burden of not having a home if he gets divorced. So basically being a selfish liar and a thief.
If a person gets raped, they do not become a holy infallible being. Getting raped doesn’t clear your conscience of any crimes you have committed prior to getting raped.
Consider that being a corporate spy is actually illegal. What Seijin did was criminal, on top of being morally wrong. So yeah, a criminal caused mass harm to a company. He destroyed years worth of work, and billions of won in lost Financial assets. But somehow because he’s been raped now, he’s only a victim and no longer a criminal? How do you come up with this logic? Or rather I’m so glad someone informed me that if I do something criminal, all I have to do is go get raped and I’ll be innocent again. Thanks for letting me know.
Ur wording is still fucked though. I didn’t fucking say he was a saint but he’s a victim of rape and the victim has zero fault when it comes to getting raped. That’s just fucked up.
You don’t get raped just because you commit fraud. Thats so fucked up.
Your twisting my words into something else good job
Also I was talking to the willow person. The person said that sejin was at fault for getting raped… literally no one is at fault when it comes to rape except for the assaulter…
Dude? Seijin put himself into a situation where no one in that house cared what happened to him, by being a backstabbing criminal who lied to everyone in the household and deceived them by being a fucking corporate spy. If he hadn’t done that then no one in the household would have pretended they didn’t know what was going on. If he hadn’t done that then his own husband would’ve turned his back on him, or allowed that to happen in the first place. In fact, he would’ve still been in a happy relationship with his husband with everything being peachy fucking keen. The only reason it stopped being like that is because of Seijin.
So guess what? Willow’s claim that Seijin was partly to blame for that incident holds true. Because that incident was only possible due to see what Seijin did in the first place. Willow also said that I what Ido did was wrong on so many levels, and that they were both to blame, not only Seijin. So maybe you’ like to take your own advice and try not twisting people’s words. You can start by getting off your fucking soapbox.
Also? You were talking to Willow? Well, Willow was talking to me hypocrite. No one asked you. You just offered your opinion. I defended the stance of the person talking to me about how we agree on this topic. Look up hypocrisy in the damn dictionary fool.
Not for getting r*ped. I'm just saying that he could've handled it better instead of saying "yeah I've slept with your brother and I'm going to do it again". He is 100% innocent when it comes to r*pe, but I think what he said helped things escalate with Ido, who was already angry and not thinking clearly. Yes, Ijung said some nonsense, but in the end, Sejin's the one who decided to trust his r*pist instead of his soon to be husband.
Babe, I never said such a thing
Please read my message again because I'm sure there's a misunderstanding
Agree!! If only he tell ido the truth that his brother raped him ido will never treat him that badly, and im pretty sure ido will think through about it because he's not a fool. But guess what? Seijin just said that and triggered him since ido already have bad first impression of him. Nonetheless, if only they have the courage to talk to one another none of this would happen.
Even if he hadn't said anything it would be better. Ido already had a rough idea of what happened. Sejin was bruised up and he could smell Ijung on him
I’m not certain, but I think there was commentary made by Ido, early on in the first life, that suggested Ido thought Seijin wasn’t a virgin? and that he thought this was something Seijin did a lot because of his father. (It was a marriage for non-romantic reasons. And Seijin seemed used to accepting such arrangement) idk. I just recall that it was a verbal jab that was implied harshly.
I don’t know if he thought Seijin’s father was prostituting him? Or that Seijin was giving out sexual favors? It just seemed like Ido thought Seijin was willing to do these things. So it’s not impossible that Ido misunderstood that Seijin was trying to cling to what he could get now that the marriage was ruined. Idk not sure. Seijin’s response was so antagonistic. Like, “I just slept with your brother” Dude! Just say that he raped you!
I think it was commentary that was made just prior to the first time Ido Orally raped Seijin… But I can’t remember which chapter that was
Seijin did a horrible wrong to Ido. He not only destroyed years worth of work for an entire company, but he even gave it away to a rival company. As readers we are focused on the romance, so we can make excuses for Seijin and say, “He didn’t know how bad it would be”. But if this were reality, then think of how his actions wouldn’t just affect the company's owners, it would affect the employees too.
Think of how many people will likely be laid off as a result of the company losing out that much money. Some of the people who are depending on their job to put food on the table for their family are going to find themselves in crisis situations. Maybe some dad will commit suicide leaving his family in ruins. Maybe kids will end up in orphanages when their parents can’t afford to take care of them. And all because Seijin needed to be loved at any price.
But the goal of the author, I think, is for us to feel sorry for Seijin, and feel sympathy for him. We’re supposed to say, “He didn’t know” when in fact he DID know that what he was doing was wrong. That’s why he hesitated. He just didn’t know HOW wrong. He focused on having a family to return to, even if he had to screw people over to guarantee it.
What happened to Seijin, in his past life was awful, but I feel like the author proved what kind of person Seijin is at his core. Because even in his present life, where he wasn’t suffering, he STILL did that.
You can blame trauma from child abuse and whatever else, but someone who will rationalize why a behavior they suspect is wrong, isn’t wrong, even while knowing full well what kind of person, the one making the request to do wrong is, can only be someone who is selfish. Theft is bad. Making excuses for morally wrong behavior is shameless, blaming everything on Ido after regaining his memories is just proof our how self centered Seijin is… I can’t sincerely root for him.