I refused help from my man, I refused to rebel and I burn letters from the only people who care about my life and safety but I'm sure I'll be fine if I keep my mouth shut and pray to god that the people who love abusing me, won't abuse me again!
Oh they want to marry me to my rapist? How couldn't I see this coming...
I've never seen a character who wants to be a victim so much. I'm almost gonna think he gets hard from it or something.
I understand that he might be too scared to act but they way he never even attempts to protect himself in the slightest is baffling, especially since he knows what Li*ter is capable of.
Your own man, the only person you can actually trust is telling you point blank that they betrayed you and stole your powers from you, demoting you to a slave they can use and abuse without consequence and you're still kissing their ass??
''They rescued me, they helped me'' how do you know that if you don't remember your past? you believe 2 of the most powerful people who have the capability of erasing and rewriting history but not the only survivors of your people who want the best for you?
He actively ruins his life, never taking a step to protect himself or make an escape route and then gets surprised when the person who loves using and abusing him, wants to use and abuse him again.
God I hope you never meet a mentally ill person in your life this rant of yours is gross.
He doesn't know Lister raped him, he doesn't recognise his own lover, he can't trust anyone not even himself, he doesn't have a victim mentality he is a victim and has been robbed of any power he ever had and you blame him. Either you read this whole story wrong or more likely you simply don't understand what it means
The only stupid thing he did was burning that note but other than that I understand all of his choices
??? He was the one getting raped??? obviously he knows??? He does remember his lover, who point blank told him that these people betrayed him behind his back and took advantage of him.
He remembered being lovers with ML, ML said they were lovers, everybody around them told him multiple times they were lovers, literally what else needs to happen for him to know they're lovers?
I'm not blaming him for being a victim, I'm blaming him for wanting to keep being one even after seeing how much his people wants to save him from it. He's not even doing anything himself, he just sits there while everyone around him does all the plotting.
He only remembered his past after his follower took out his previous doctor and managed to claw her way to being his new health expert.
All he has to do is wait for his people to give him the solution to his problems in a silver platter but he STILL doesn't take the initiative to look at the letter even after all the trouble doctor had to go trough just to reach him.
His followers decided to follow him to their demise but he still doesn't trust them, he only trusts the queen who not only lets Lister abuse him, but was also revealed to betray MC when he was at his lowest.
''She doesn't know!!'' she obviously knows. At the very start of the story she saw him being abusive towards MC and asked him if he's hurting MC again. After that she's still letting him walk away with a few punches instead of a proper punishment.
That's not protecting him, she's only pretending to punish Lister while she's letting him do whatever he wants, even going as far as to marry him to MC despite knowing how abusive he is.
She's just like Lister, she's taking advantage of her slave status to force him into a marriage he obviously detests. Their only difference is Lister is a physical abuser while the queen tries to mask it as concern.
Despite all that MC is still only trusting the queen while everyone around him is begging him to fucking do literally anything. They lost their friends, families, lovers to follow MC but he can't even be fucking bothered to read a letter.
Then he acts shocked when the obviously abusive people are being abusive towards him.
He has the opportunity to rebel for this one chance only. He has ML at his side, he has a sliver of freedom to roam around and he has his people to do the plotting for him but he's such a coward he chooses to turn a blind eye to everything around him because for some reason he keeps flip flopping about his slave status.
He rebels when Lister is abusing him but he calms down when Lister is away. He doesn't even realize that once the queen is gone, Lister has the power to do anything he wants and acting all nice and calling himself a slave won't save him from getting raped again.
He doesn't realize that acting ignorant to the rebellion and calling himself a lowly slave won't protect him from getting burned too.
Forget about the rebellion, he doesn't bother to protect himself or give himself an escape route if things get too tough LIKE A FORCED MARRIAGE.
I understand him for not snitching on Lister because queen already knows. She let him get away with it for so long so if he tells, the only punishment for him will be a punch or elbow he can just get more enraged about.
Yes MC is mentally ill but he's still capable of plotting and scheming by the way we saw him use the child to exchange info and hide the map fragments.
He currently knows that his memories were gone because of the queen and the only way to get them back is trough the doctor giving him different meds, shown by map fragments showing up on the same place MC tried to hide the new ones.
Justifying his acting by calling him mentally ill is so infantilizing, acting like he's incapable of doing anything to plot his way out when we already saw him do it before.
His mental illness is caused by the queen too, he knows this. He knows that the queen intentionally used meds to damage his memories so he could stay incapable and the only reason he's remembering is because of the new doctor. HE KNOWS.
HE KNOWS the queen is a two faced lying plotter but STILL he's choosing her side even though she made it obvious that she doesn't really care about MC, only cares about their past relationship and sentimentality.
It's really dumb how him burning the map is the ''only time'' he made a dumb decision like he wasn't actively deciding to trust the queen who he knows at this point:
-Revealed to betray MC
-Revealed to betray ML after promising to look after MC
-Intentionally giving MC harmful meds to damage his mind and memories more
-Intentionally letting Lister get away with his abusive without doing anything to protect MC from him
-Intentionally choosing Lister's side and agreeing to wed him to MC despite knowing his abusive side
-Intentionally trying to get rid of ML from getting in her way and rescuing MC
-Keeping MC's people under surveillance in case they try to help MC
Despite everything MC still choses the queen's side, acting like being obedient will prevent him from being abused more even though he got proven wrong time and time again.
''I'm a slave, I need to repent'' He knows. He's not that stupid, he knows that his past, his power and his politics were stolen away from him but he still decides to stay ignorant because he somehow can't comprehend that Lister will come after him regardless if he rebels or not.
By rebelling, he's at least preparing a way out for himself, by being obedient, he's actively shooting himself in the foot because he thinks that a devil spawn will have mercy on him.
I'm betting 100 dollars, MC will only rebel once Lister does something to him again. Because we saw time and time again, MC only rebels and looks for a way out when Lister abuses him and he gets desperate to get away.
He only decides to protect himself when he drives himself in a corner by refusing help from the only people who cares about him.
Okay I think I got confused because I know the spoilers but I meant the rape that caused him to have a mental breakdown before the start of the story and you meant the sexual assault that happens in the servants quarters, that's my bad.
Lysbeth is just as bad as her brother imo but my point is that you don't seem to understand just how disabled the MC is despite the depictions being very clear. In the last chapters he was confronted by someone who pointed out how hollow he is his psychosis episode and I hope you never understand the feeling of having to rebuild your personality from scratch but I find it to be very realistic.
In the first part of the story he has no memories of his adult life and is being drugged and abused and from this point on he has done things like quitting medication and having seizures. This is how a disabled person left to fend for themselves would act, I know because I've done these things. Quitting medication because I was tired of always being catatonic gave me paranoia and the wrong medication made me allucinate and dissociate. When you can't trust your mind you trust no one not even the people who love you.
Silhan thinks that Gjiord is going to kill people for him and he doesn't want that, he thinks Gjiord loves the person he was before while now he's just a shell, he thinks he doesn't deserve different because he doesn't know who he used to be. Happiness becomes really scary once you've been suffering for a while, but he's still trying to maintain a bit of his fight like wanting to recover his memories (which will cause him to suffer) and getting away from Lister.
Tbh I think there's plenty of stories where the MC is not only unjustifiedly dumber but ends up with the Lister of the story while this one is mostly an exploration of the struggles that a mental decline brings, and it's well done because I've never related this much to a MC.
I get you anger but I think you're missing the point, even Gjiord hides stuff from him he can't trust anyone not even himself and that's why he's giving up the big fight.
I never wanted to bitch slap a MC more than this manga. You are a slave, you got your throne stolen, your man sent away, your people abused and shoved in positions where they can't even breathe without permission, you got betrayed, you got used, you got raped and you're still acting like everything will be hunky dory if you play a dumbass?
Just because you're ignoring the problem it doesn't mean everything will go as usual because again, you're a slave.
''Oh I know I have a knife on my throat, a gun to my head and my feet are shackled so I can't run but I'm sure that if I throw away the key to my freedom and act like an obedient slave they won't kill me!''
People around you want to use your for politics and you don't have the power to refuse. Just because you act ignorant to the problem it doesn't mean you will be spared from their abuse.
Absolute fucking moron, I genuinely can't believe this guy used to be a good and smart leader people used to follow.
At this point I want to see more of Lister because MC is so absolutely stupid the only way for him to understand the gravity of the situation is by being absed by Lister again.
He only yearns for freedom when he's being abused but once the abuse is over, he's fine with being a slave again.
He has a hole in his roof. On rainy days it's too wet to work, and on sunny days the roof doesn't need fixing.