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I know, God I feel like ive genuinely only seen a handful of good healthy bdsm couples on either manga or manhua, its always so disappointing seeing bdsm viewed like this by mangakas, just all rape, black mailing, or abuse- like what year are we in gang????

I feel you. If you want a consensual S&M one there is https://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/geboku_sama_no_iu_toori/ It's mostly verbal abuse but not bad, reread it again recently and was still pretty happy with it. Wish I could find more that were a little more hardcore/varied without the toxic tropes but it honestly feels near impossible to find them.

Yea man ,like I'm personally not a part of the bdsm community but even so, I feel so sad that people view the community like this and these authors are continuously perpetuating this misconception and some people who's exploring themselves could fell into very dangerous situations with these views

Thanks diva

Thank you queen

Literally exactly my thoughts too- I started reading yaoi as a early teenager and it absolutely brainwashed me to thinking that was what bdsm just was, but even as an adult thats not in that scene, it's just as impactful, and demonizing. Especially when there is a very large difference in manga/manhua that are supposed to be upsetting and are actually not romanticizing the pretty toxic fictional bdsm in their works (which there are more than a few now that are on purpose at least and somewhat open that it's rank) and works like this that genuinely make it (like ive seen so many throughout the years, we all know this shiet