YEEES( ° ʖ °) Hanmi is jealous of Jun's gf~ but why did he have to ignore her and Seong...

BB-boy July 16, 2017 4:15 pm

YEEES( ° ʖ °) Hanmi is jealous of Jun's gf~ but why did he have to ignore her and Seonghwa, I would just beat Seonghwa and taken Hanmi and dump that non-chicken eater ('ω') (just kidding I like her LOL). Ginny has to stop running away damnit٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ embrace the love. I WANT A JUNHYUK AND HANMI KISS THIS SEASON... JUST PLEACEEE THEY'RE THE BEST SHIP!!! (((o(*゚▽゚*)o)))♡

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    Sharky July 16, 2017 8:49 pm

    Well, he didn't actually see who she was with, but I guess he decided it's none of his business anyway. Junhyuk always played the role of protective brother for Hanmi, and apparently growing up she was a bit naive when it comes to guys, and it is from there when he picked up the role before Seonghwa appeared and he realized he became swallowed by something else that was unbrotherly. This is why Hanmi wanted to know more about Gun by visiting Jua in the hospital, cause she didn't want someone who will break her again, as she will not know how to face Junhyuk again. So that's why she was happy when Junhyuk and Gun got along, cause she really wanted his approval and that's why she wanted to know more about Gun through Jua. But as Junhyuk told her, they are not family and like what he told Seonghwa, he won't interfere in her business anymore. So the reason he ignored her is because he has no reason to get involved in her business anymore by continuing to pretend they are family and he's that protective brother. So by ignoring her it shows he has has truly left, and that he has moved on. Hyeran is with him, and this goes back to what Seonghwa told Hanmi, that Junhyuk found someone and this time it had nothing to do with her unlike before. So by ignoring Hanmi and going on with Hyeran, it just shows his priorities. So unlike with Ginny who he used to get closer to Hanmi, with Hyeran he has no ulterior motive so he has no reason to get involved with Hanmi anymore(for now....I hope).

    I really ship JHHM from the bottom of my kokoro, but tbh I still feel like Junhyuk x Hyeran is more likely. I still think even though both Junhyuk and Hanmi have feelings for each other, it just will not feel right to them to be anything else but the family they grew up being. But there's still really a lot to be explored when it comes to JHHM. So maybe after when it's all said and done, incest will forever be wincest.

    BB-boy July 16, 2017 9:09 pm
    Well, he didn't actually see who she was with, but I guess he decided it's none of his business anyway. Junhyuk always played the role of protective brother for Hanmi, and apparently growing up she was a bit na... Sharky

    Hmm... I see what you mean. I recently (read: today LOL) re-read Unstoppable Siblings for the 4th time, and something I saw was that Jun's and Hanmi's relationship start off as a more typical brother-sister (for example, Hanmi calling Jun "oppa", and that they referred each other as brother/sister), but then, after a while they really stop that and look more like a couple/friends than a family really. They still care deeply about each other, but have their own problems they don't share (I mean hell, Hanmi even knows what type of porn Jun watches, like c'mon), they're CLOSE. I feel like that when their relationship got to the point where they were feeling more than just family love for each other, Jun felt (as he was the "big brother") he has to cut "family" out of the picture, and so he did. Maybe he wanted to approach her now as a lover, not as a brother. That would have worked fine (or better, at least), if Hanmi didn't keep stirring shit up. Junhyuk leaves her business alone until it becomes his business too, and Seonghwa seems to like getting both of them involved. I don't really feel that Jun is dating Hyeran because he actually romantically likes her, but because he tries to let go of Hanmi (maybe?).

    The author DID say that Junhyuk will play a bigger part this season... so I hope that he will be more involved with Hanmi (and that we get to know their FULL backstory, damnit). Also, I still believe that JHHM will more likely to be canon... maybe because Hyeran hasn't really played a really important part (yet?). JHHM simply has more chemistry, AND I SHIP THEM FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART TOO.( ՞ਊ ՞)

    Sharky July 17, 2017 7:01 am
    Hmm... I see what you mean. I recently (read: today LOL) re-read Unstoppable Siblings for the 4th time, and something I saw was that Jun's and Hanmi's relationship start off as a more typical brother-sister (fo... @BB-boy

    This manhwa was made to be reread a 100 times. About their start, I think they did start off as a typical bro-sis, but it also appears we were introduced to them at the point where they were acting like a family again, meaning before then the stuff that happened threated that family frame. Junhyuk told Hanmi that they should at least pretend to be a family infront of "ajumma" when they were about to move out, this is the point where we were introduced to them. So the stuff that happened before made them have to put effort into acting like a brother and sister again, and this is also what made them want to create boundaries to the point where they didn't want anyone in their new school to know they're related or getting involved in each other's business. That's why Junhyuk was surprised she got him involved in her affairs again by telling everyone they're a couple. So at the start even though their relationship appeared as a more typical brother-sister one, in the background it has always been anything but. This relationship is really perplexing.

    There are two questions I've always been asking myself, does Hanmi like Junhyuk too, yes I believe she does, does she know that Junhyuk likes her too, this I also believe she does but as it seems she always seem to deny it...well at least to us. Even when Junhyuk left, she asked him why he's leaving since they were getting along just fine, and that's when said because he can't stand it, "being with you", pretending to be her family. She said it's the worst lie she ever heard, and he told her it's not a lie and "she knows it". I think she fully knows about Junhyuk feelings, and again when Seonghwa asked her how he should show he loves her, if she would call that relationship where "he can't have you or let you go" love. That relationship that "obviously crosses the line". So I really think she knows as much as Junhyuk wants going on, she's just not willing to face the truth...yet.

    I had similar thoughts about Junhyuk now approaching her as a lover, and not as her brother since he's out of that family frame. But then again, that's the whole reason he left. So that he should not approach her as a lover, cause his feelings are "a danger" to his family. I also don't think Junhyuk likes Hyeran romantically, but like she said, sooner or later, eventually he will. So we have THAT in the way. And I also don't think he's using her to try and let go of Hanmi, cause like what Seonghwa said to Hanmi, "you were not even on his mind". Going back to my point about about Hanmi knowing more than she shows, in that scene Seonghwa told her she didn't know about Hyeran for days, that if it was like before she would have been the first to know, cause that's what Junhyuk did, quote on quote, "all this time" and it was as if Hanmi knew what Junhyuk was doing all that time. So that's why I really think she also knows very well about Junhyuk feelings.

    Yeah I think you're right about Hyeran not playing a big part yet, but to be honest she's just here to steal Junhyuk away. I doubt she will get involved in all the drama we have going on here, well unless Junhyuk himself got involved. There are many cracks in the Hanmi x Gun ship, but with Junhyuk x Hyeran it's a different story, they are solid af imo. He told her the truth about them being siblings cause he didn't want to cause problems for them in the future. Even when she was told Junhyuk might be using her, she said it doesn't matter cause he will like her anyway, and she even went and ask Hanmi herself if she thinks Junhyuk is using her. As much as I want this ship to sink, it's a fucking navy. Gun always seem to get insecure when it comes to Junhyuk, but Hyeran hasn't showed any such things, even smilled like some puppet master seeing them dancing, even admitting there's something there and she thought they were cute. Like wtf. She has been presented as the girl Junhyuk needs. And this has never been more apparent than when told him that she knows he's straight out trying to use her and he's testing her by doing so. Even though she admitted it's rude, she went out and told him that his problems, "I will solve them all". Like I said, NAVY.

    Okay, this gettin longer than I anticipated lol. When it comes to JHHM, I always seem to see the worst. Or maybe I'm just prepared for the worst. Whatever the case, if they don't end up together, I will stay away from wincest for the rest of my life I swear.

    BB-boy July 17, 2017 7:08 pm
    This manhwa was made to be reread a 100 times. About their start, I think they did start off as a typical bro-sis, but it also appears we were introduced to them at the point where they were acting like a famil... Sharky

    I made some notes in which I felt like Junhyuk and Hanmi were really progressing in their relationship, in some way.

    Chapter 16 ("She was surprised and so was he")- they almost kiss, but then realised wait we can't do that we're cousins/not a real couple, but blames it on that they're in school. This was the real first time they forgot/didn't think about that they're family.

    Chapter 28 - Junhyuk and Gun are talking about how they both have a younger sibling, and Junhyuk mentions that even if they're family (and very close and comfortable with each other), not everything can and should be said, even family can't be completely honest with each other. Junhyuk was never uncomfortable with telling Hanmi the truth, but he knows he can't/shouldn't tell her everything because "even between siblings, words can be destructive". In the same chapter, Hanmi thinks back to herself that this was "a nice remedy for both [her and Jun]" and that she "might actually miss this [relationship with Junhyuk]".

    Of course more things happen between Hanmi and Junhyuk the continuing chapters, after Ginny enters the picture, Gun's "confession" to Jun (LOL), that Hanmi and Jun break up, but also that he almost kisses her when they're on their "double date" wit Gun and Ginny. He of course also moves out, confesses that he has un-pure feelings for Hanmi, starts dating Hyeran, beats Seonghwa, and then gets even more involved as of now. I'm just to lazy to type it all out LOL.

    Junhyuk is also the person Hanmi trusts the most. He knows her past, she knows his. She is closer with him than Ginny, Yueun and Juri. I also agree that the Hanmi x Gun have many flaws, and really, they seem to treat each other more like friends than a couple. They also have too many secrets and unspoken things in their relationship, which is why they're having a hard time to be a good couple (compared to Jun and Hyeran that are a solid couple with no real secrets at all). Hell, they seemed closer in the beginning-middle of the manhua than they do now, and for people that have known each other for that long should have solved their issues by now (or at least brought them up, with less lies and secrets surrounding their situation).

    Maybe Hyeran is the person Junhyuk "needs". The person that could make him happy, and someone he is compatible with, but she isn't who he wants and loves. THAT person is Hanmi. I firmly believe that if Hanmi chooses to approach Jun in a romantic/sexual way this season, he won't stop it. They are already seemingly involved in each other's business (to an extent) thanks to Seonghwa. Hyeran is confident that she can make Junhyuk (who we can safely say she actually likes) fall for her, and he will let her do that IF Hanmi doesn't interfere.

    This webtoon is so unpredictable, so we don't really know what will happen and how everyone will act. But I will go down with JHHM to the grave damnit! WINCEST.

    Hyuuu July 18, 2017 2:20 am
    I made some notes in which I felt like Junhyuk and Hanmi were really progressing in their relationship, in some way. Chapter 16 ("She was surprised and so was he")- they almost kiss, but then realised wait we c... @BB-boy

    This thread is love. This thread is life. I've been missing the wincest lately, and this is exactly what I needed. C:

    Sharky July 19, 2017 5:57 am
    I made some notes in which I felt like Junhyuk and Hanmi were really progressing in their relationship, in some way. Chapter 16 ("She was surprised and so was he")- they almost kiss, but then realised wait we c... @BB-boy

    Ch 16, yeah, that was funny. Almost as funny as that "ARE YOU CRYING?" scene. And I think you're right, I think they forgot for a moment there that they aren't a real couple. I wonder what would have happened if there was no one around. I like how everyone was just pissed that nothing happened and were like "students should just study". Yeah these two really have some hilarious moments.

    Ch26, when Hanmi was admitting she might actually miss her relationship with Junhyuk, this reminds how actually delayed their break up once or twice without an actual reason. Even when everything was clear and they were no problems anymore, she still didn't want to break up with him. I guess she didn't want for them to be strangers at school since they would have no reason to see each other anymore, and I think she didn't want to go back to the time they were strangers at their previous school. And in the end it actually ended up happening, and I Hanmi ended feeling selfish for wanting to see him even though she was the one said they should break up.

    I also agree that Junhyuk is the person she trusts the most, but that's the problem. Remember what Junhyuk told her when he was leaving, "we'll only grow weaker if we stick together". They don't know how to be apart. Because no matter what happens, they'd have each others backs, at times at the expenses of crossing boundaries. Hanmi when she's tired always seem to go to Jun. After coming coming back from visiting Jua she went to sleep on his shoulder wondering if he'll say they should break up again(meaning this is something that occured before), and during their double date when she went to give him a few words regarding Ginny but just ended falling asleep on his arm, even though both Gun and Ginny were there. And she did it because she felt exhausted, so it's like she seeks comfort in him. And this goes back to one reason I fear a no-wincest-ending-for-you is just waiting for us. The reason being Hanmi's feeling for Junhyuk. Does she seek love or does she seek comfort, or does she seek comfort when in truth she seeks love. Remember when Seonghwa was telling telling her about Junhyuk new gf, she responded by asking if he thought telling her this would shake her because it would mean that her brother cares less about her, so in other words, feel neglected. And this seems to be the stronger case tbh. So Hanmi might be infact seeking and not love, and also feeling not jealous but neglected.

    Or maybe, she's seeking love but thinks she's seeking comfort. She might be feeling jealous but thinks she's feeling neglected. And this suspicious I have, is because I really doubt Hanmi knows what love is. There has been few instances when eye brows have been raised over such issues. Junhyuk asked her how she had no problem using Gun the guy she like when Ginny came in the scene when she fooled her into trying to seduce him knowing her attempts will be futile. Ginny also had similar thoughts when she told her that Seonghwa was there for him and she told her how he's not that into her such that she could seduce him and everything and Ginny was left wondering how she could speak like that about someone she used to like(ch90). She asked Seonghwa in that flashback that "No matter who you are and what you've done I'm always on your side. I'm willing to do anything because of you. This is what you feel when you like someone. Right?" And he told her "it is". And Gun's head was super imposed over Seonghwa as if to show what she felt for him is what she's feeling for Gun. That no matter what he did to Jua, she will choose Gun's side and that's what she decided when she went to visit him for the last time. So maybe Hanmi doesn't know what love is. Maybe it's not what she had for Seonghwa or maybe even Gun, maybe it's what she feels for her oppa(my incest senses are tingling). Lol, but we can only hope

    BB-boy July 19, 2017 8:50 pm
    Ch 16, yeah, that was funny. Almost as funny as that "ARE YOU CRYING?" scene. And I think you're right, I think they forgot for a moment there that they aren't a real couple. I wonder what would have happened i... Sharky

    There was also this part when Junhyuk was moving out in chapter 95-96. That while conversation between the two seemed so... incest. Like it sounded like they had already slept together or something (SOME TYPE OF NOT VERY SIBLING RELATIONSHIP) once in the flashbacks from their old school (going from a brother-sister relationship, to being not as close of a family). During that whole old-school sequence, it really seemed that Hanmi and Junhyuk were really close in the beginning (like at the start of Ginny and Junhyuk) and then drifted apart when she joined Seonghwa. I don't know, something must have happened between Hanmi and Junhyuk during that period because it couldn't just have been that she joined Seonghwa and his gang.

    Hanmi wants to protect the people she likes, Gun, Junhyuk, Yueun, etc, and it feels like she has to protect Junhyuk in a different way. She doesn't tell Gun any secrets, but she has a harder time figuring out how much she can tell Junhyuk. Before, they seemed to tell each other everything, and that was a safe thing for them, just between two people who trusted each other and will not betray each other, because they were family. Just like you say, they cannot be apart. They miss each other after their "break up", feeling bored and a little lonely. They feel safe around each other, they know each other's secrets. Hanmi trusts him so much with everything that she even considered "dating" him again just to piss off/see how Seonghwa'd react. If she has a plan and it involves Junhyuk, she KNOWS he will agree and have her back, no questions asked.

    I personally think Junhyuk is not totally right with the whole "we'll only grow weaker if we stick together". They will just feel safer if they're together, meaning they'll lose their guard and rational thoughts. Junhyuk knows that, that when Hanmi can be with someone she loves (past Seonghwa, current Gun, Junhyuk in general), she will stop thinking rationally and clearly, and be totally consumed with the relationship and her love. He was doing all of this, the dating, leaving ("I've waited 10 years for this moment"), the relationship with Hyeran, to protect Hanmi. His relationship with Hyeran could be to get over Hanmi, BUT it could also be to tell her "sorry you can't have me", because he knows she wants it (and he does too). If Gun rejects Hanmi after all this, she will totally go after Junhyuk, and break his relationship with Hyeran. The only real love Hanmi knows is Junhyuk, just like you said.

    THIS INCEST IS WINCEST. Hanmi always has a small thought regarding Junhyuk, regardless of the situation. He was (is) her protector. Like that time Gun put his jacket over her shoulders (when she was sleeping in school), the first person she thought of doing that when she woke was Junhyuk. My wincest shipping heart can't take this damnit.

    Sharky July 21, 2017 7:09 pm
    There was also this part when Junhyuk was moving out in chapter 95-96. That while conversation between the two seemed so... incest. Like it sounded like they had already slept together or something (SOME TYPE O... @BB-boy

    You killed me here XD!!!. I know I'm team incest, but damn you deserve to be the captain of this ship. You can see wincest in everything lol. I for one am not as hopeful about my beloved ship tbh. Everytime I notice something I want to see I also notice something I don't want to see. Anyway, I agree with you here but I feel like sometimes we underestimate team Gun. So far their problems are external(mostly) and I have no reason to think they will break up. Hanmi maybe in love with Junhyuk too, but even that may not be enough for them to indulge in wincest. I just want to see a crack in JunxHyeran and HanmixGun ships, then I'll be the happiest shipper alive.

    Anyway, again, damn you ship this hard!!!. But I guess I'm the same tbh. I don't know if there's a ship currently that's making so restless like JHHM. Anyway I hope we can get into their past arc soon. I really want to know what the hell happened back then. So many questions. I also don't want to fully see this ship through your eyes, I have a weak heart when it comes to shipping. Sinking ships tear my veins apart, so I have to keep it safe and prevent myself from having a heart attack by expecting the worst. Not that it helps much, but damnit at least I can keep my life.