I'm gonna repeat what the wolf said, " I hate people with low self esteem and people who a...

i guess because the twins get all the clicks and views, they also usually have tiny penises which sometimes make me feel icky because 1 it’s not realistic, and 2 it makes them look so childlike. like it makes me feel like a pedo and i deadass skipped the smut scene because i felt disgusted. they usually try to make them poor and weak so they can be protected by their semes but then like now that i think about it, i feel like it’s such a hetero dynamic. like i know it’s not all yaois but it is the majority i think idk i just rambled and i would be surprised if you even read this lmao. just what i personally think

twinks*

also i feel like most of the time the story doesn’t really focus off the seme pov do we actually don’t get to explore their character as much and they seem a bit one dimensional, so when they protect the uke that like the only characteristic they have

Yep.. Most of the time , the semester seem distant as we look at things from the ukes pov.. I forgot the last time I read a story from the tops pov

*seme's... Bloody auto correct

*sees two men having gay sex*

Anyone else getting major hetero vibes??

no i think that maybe it’s because a lot of bl is somehow written by women and therefore we have gay with heavy undertones of straight, like skinny lanky, almost feminine uke and then big buff daddy like i feel like the damsel in distress card is used very heavily? like you fwm? like obviously it’s two men having sex but it’s the dynamic, and i’m pretty sure i said that in my comment too lol.

yeah it was in my original comment, i just checked, DYNAMIC - a character or characters, who undergoes significant internal change, growth, or transformation throughout the narrative, driven by their experiences and conflicts

Feminine gay men exist. This is also a major TERF talking point to basically reject the fact that ftm men are still men. Just 'cause they aren't jacked and 6'0" doesn't mean they are less of a man than those that are.

One of my best friends is a gay man the same height as me ((5'0")) and weighs like 100 lbs. Probably tmi, but his dick is also only like 5" at most. He's also soft spoken and used to do gymnastics and ballet. Does that make him "heteronormative" since he has more in common with a "woman" than a "man" to you?

The "damsel in distress" isn't only used for female protagonists either. It's just your narrow world view making you see weakness as a trait only women can have for some reason, and that says more about you than it does someone who draws romance between gay men as a living.

Well said

dawg you’re taking this way out of context goddamn, like are you even reading my comment properly??? i NEVER SAID THAT I DONT THINK FEMININE MEN ARENT MEN. i said that majority of bl has heavy hetero undertone BECAUSE ITS WRITTEN BY WOMEN, THEREFORE THEY DONT HAVE THE FULL EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE TO FULLY PORTRAY A GAY RELATIONSHIP. small men exist, yes, but in bl they usually the bottom and the top is jacked as fuck, give me ten yaois without looking up recs where the smaller man is the top. look at the popular yaois on this site, even look at shounen ai. NEVER did i say ANYTHING ABOUT REAL LIFE FEMININE MEN ARENT MEN. get your head outta your ass and fucking read my comment. maybe develop your frontal lobe while you’re at it because you got WAY TOO defensive WAY TOO fast. My best friend is the most twinkiest man alive and he cracks men bigger than him all the time, not only that but he fully agrees that bls have heavy hetero undertones, you bringing up your feminine gay best friend doesn’t mean shit, especially if i wasn’t referring to real life men. because guess what? a gay relationship has TWO MEN IN IT but the what i’m trying to point out is in bl, in almost every dynamic i see, the uke gets twinkified, why is it that in every bl i see one “needs” to become more feminine. and the answer is that most black cater towards women, SHOCKER!!!! THEREFORE THEY HAVE HETERO UNDERTONES

the uke is usually tiny asf and the seme is jacked asf*

very well said. the other user wanted to go deep with the hetero undertones bla bla on a short fantasy manga but draw the line when you go down with them as well lmaooo the fumbling is funny just ignore their weirdass.

well if we really think about it, this concept falls under gender essentialism which is closely tied with hetero normality in which authors portray a queer relationship through a “straight” lens. and i think it would be the case because most bls are written by women. therefore i said that it has hetero undertones, if anyone were to fully and really read my comment they would realise that im literally just pointing out the insane amount of bl that follow the tiny uke and huge seme. and it’s probably closedly tied to the fact that japan and korea are still hella conservative and therefore carry those ideals whether its conscious or unconscious. take a look at your uploads too, it follows the same pattern. now i’m not shaming anyone for reading, but in all my comments im trying to tell people that it’s an observation im making. damn, i thought you’d be much more chill but appreciate your uploads i guess :/

mind you i almost never reply to anyone’s comment but you were being rude to someone who literally just answered your argument so i can’t just let it slide. i hate drama and fight under my uploads, i let people said their opinions or whatever the fuck that they want but i will draw the line when both parties or either one began to resolve to insult in argument, just like yours. if you go that low then i can as well.

op seems chill enough with their replies to you and i’m chilling as well so idk what triggered you in the first place. also, say whatever you want about this manga or other mangas that i upload, i only spent my money for people to read anyway. you won’t see me replying to people’s comment under my uploads except those who thanked me, asked for updates or asked for raws, i leave it at that. i only hopped in here bcs it’s a long thread.

this manga is not allat either but i also leave it at that as it’s just fictional, it doesn’t meant to be taken seriously. while i understand that you want people to respect your opinions and wanted to freely voice out your criticisms, please learn how to accept criticism as well before taking the risk to voice out said opinions. in my case, i keep my mouth shut bcs i know people won’t take it well if i said half of the things that i don’t like about my own uploads as well. regardless, thank you for reading my uploads.

i get that, but the problem i had was that they were trying to argue against something i never said, from my standpoint, due to the fact that they kept misunderstanding me, if you were to read their comment as a standalone it would seem that i hate feminine men and that im narrow minded. and they said that first. the other commenter constantly ignoring my original comment and misunderstanding me is what got me worked up. i’m all up to taking criticism, but the point they brought up completely disregards the comments i made before. regarding the damsel in distress comment, i do think that that is a valid argument and that’s why i didn’t say anything about it when i responded. but if i were to try to argue against something that you were just trying to point out would you not get angry too? personally i don’t even think i was aggressive in the beginning, only when they completely rearranged my argument did i get pissed off. i know that this manga is fictional, but if we bring it back to op question, they’re asking about bls in general. like im being so fr rn i’m not shaming anyone for reading about twinks i do not care what people read, read what you want, i wasn’t trying to shame you on what you upload either i just pointed it out. but i’ve said time and time again and this is an observation that im making. in response to op question. and if they wanted to follow up and delve deeper into why bl is portrayed the way it is i would’ve followed them.

if they wanted to bring up TERF and ftm i didn’t mind but don’t say or imply that i don’t believe that they’re men when im making an observation about queer dynamics and how it’s portrayed in media

^^Dawg this a manga about a sheep and a wolf it ain’t that deep

it's fictional bruh

look, i’m not here to argue about the topic of this manga, i merely came here to refrain both of you from arguing further but you were the one who lose your cool first on previous reply so i jumped in just for that. both arguments valid as you guys stand on topic, op did answered on what you said about the feminine thingy tho, they didn’t stray out of what you said so i’m sorry, i feel like both opinions matter but from what i saw, you didn’t take that kindly. i understand the frustration, but i just read what i saw so i won’t get involved in that topic.

and no, i didnt even take your ways of replying me as you shaming me for my uploads or anything insulting either. i’m fr said i’m chilling with whatever people said about my uploads tho. i just feel like a short unserious manga didn’t worth of that deep argument, it’s just that. if you somehow feel wronged by my replies then i apologize, just keep the argument respectful with others.