I love this series but I'm a bit perved that the author made it seem like domestic abuse w...

Ichigo July 18, 2017 4:15 pm

I love this series but I'm a bit perved that the author made it seem like domestic abuse was so easy to fix and get over.

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    Anonymous July 18, 2017 4:20 pm

    I can see where you're coming from...I was thinking it'd be at least a bit more realistic if Hayashida went to go see a therapist or something for anger control and to overcome his past trauma..

    Ichigo July 18, 2017 5:13 pm

    Yeah... but instead he entered into a relationship with Shuuna who's ok with how he beat the shit out of his ex...

    Pidgehardy July 18, 2017 5:14 pm
    I can see where you're coming from...I was thinking it'd be at least a bit more realistic if Hayashida went to go see a therapist or something for anger control and to overcome his past trauma.. @Anonymous

    Thats bullshit, not everyone who has problems has the balls to go to therapy some people can actually get over situations on their own. He has a lot of pride from what I can tell maybe hw wanted to fox himself to not appear 'weak' or maybe he never wanted to be fixed? He wanted to suffer because he felt guilty for his actions.

    Ichigo July 18, 2017 5:21 pm
    Thats bullshit, not everyone who has problems has the balls to go to therapy some people can actually get over situations on their own. He has a lot of pride from what I can tell maybe hw wanted to fox himself ... Pidgehardy

    Never give advice to people who need therapeutic help. You don't qualify and honestly, you're just plain stupid. Don't ruin people's live.

    Pidgehardy July 18, 2017 5:32 pm
    Never give advice to people who need therapeutic help. You don't qualify and honestly, you're just plain stupid. Don't ruin people's live. Ichigo

    I'm just stating a basic fact, not everyone wants to receive help in these situations it's presumptuous to presume everyone who needs help can just be like ' oh I'm not okay I'll just go get some therapy' I think how things turned out are pretty realistic. I know plenty of people who have and have not received therapy for different circumstances, that's THEIR choice, obviously it would be better to. However, I was anorexic a few years ago, went to seek help and a shitty doctor made me feel shit and I recovered on my own through hard work. So go fuck yourself.

    kyra 23 July 18, 2017 5:46 pm

    It's been a couple of years since Yumi and Hayashida were together. Hayashida was get abused at work and took it out on Yumi. He finally told Yumi to leave him because he knew eventually that he would severely injure Yumi to the point of no return. Hayashida left the job that physically, emotionally and sexually (heavily implied) abused him for another. It's been a couple of years since then and Hayashida is still punishing himself. Even though he wasn't the victim in his abuse disputes with Yumi, he is still not over it. Sure, Yumi moved on pretty fast, we can say that. However, Kan didn't, he won't even take the picture down even though he is in love with Shuuna. There are people who can recover without therapy. Sure, therapy is a great service, but you have to remember that people can recover in other therapeutic ways. I honestly believe Hayashida and Yumi need to see each other again, to have closure. So, I have to disagree with you. I feel that it is an unorthodox outlook at the abuser's perspective of recovery, which is something that isn't illustrated or told enough, we always see the victim's perspective...it's refreshing in a way.

    Anonymous July 18, 2017 5:48 pm
    Never give advice to people who need therapeutic help. You don't qualify and honestly, you're just plain stupid. Don't ruin people's live. Ichigo

    But You also need to be qualified to diagnose someone for needing therapy. Its not so simple.

    Pidgehardy July 18, 2017 5:57 pm
    It's been a couple of years since Yumi and Hayashida were together. Hayashida was get abused at work and took it out on Yumi. He finally told Yumi to leave him because he knew eventually that he would severely ... kyra 23

    This

    candytuft July 18, 2017 6:46 pm
    This Pidgehardy

    I agree with pidgehardy and kyra 23. People can recover in other therapeutic ways, it doesn't always have to be through psychotherapy. People who arent psychologist or psychiatrist can also help people in need to recover, and bring the best out of them. In this case, Shuuna help Hayashida-san in his own way, through understanding, forgiving, accepting, giving chances, trust, seeing each other as equals, those are qualities of compassion. Maybe some of us just haven't seen or consider the compassion Shuuna is giving to Hayashida-san. Please dont underestimate the power of compassion. Compassion has a healing effect :D that's why people suffering psychologically have the chance to recover without psychotherapy. Nothing's wrong with the story sensei's had decided. It's still pretty realistic. Also we cant compare a life of a manga character with ours, because a manga can never completely cover up the complexity of human's life, or human in general.

    ChucklesTheMime July 18, 2017 7:11 pm
    It's been a couple of years since Yumi and Hayashida were together. Hayashida was get abused at work and took it out on Yumi. He finally told Yumi to leave him because he knew eventually that he would severely ... kyra 23

    thank you.

    Anonymous July 18, 2017 7:45 pm
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    ^^^^

    Uzumakii_Fan12 July 18, 2017 10:30 pm

    even people that have problems its not as easy for them to just get up and goto the therapist or whatever or maybe he did but the author didnt include it because it would have dragged out the series more or maybe she didnt want to draw that lol but he didnt just move on i dont think he planned to get into another relationship but after having sex with shunna he fell in love (▰˘◡˘▰)

    Uzumakii_Fan12 July 18, 2017 10:33 pm

    also the author wanted to make it more inspirational in the way that it shows sometimes when something goes wrong you have to pick your self up or have a change or meet someone who will find the change in you....okay now im just spouting sentimental sh*t ...ill stop xD

    Ario July 18, 2017 10:56 pm

    "a bit perved"

    Ario July 18, 2017 10:57 pm
    It's been a couple of years since Yumi and Hayashida were together. Hayashida was get abused at work and took it out on Yumi. He finally told Yumi to leave him because he knew eventually that he would severely ... kyra 23

    yas!

    SluttySemi July 19, 2017 12:58 am

    i've already read about yumi and how he felt about the abuse. so, right now i'm interested in seeing a victim of abuse who actually came to the realization that's he's fucking both himself and yumi up with his behavior. no one is excusing what he did, but i'm here to understand the factors that contributed in his behavior towards yumi in the earlier series. You can't read none of Ogeretsu's works thinking that there isn't any complexity in the characters. If that's the judgement you made after analyzing how
    toxic yumi and kanchan are together, then that's fine. Kanchan went through a lot of shit at work that made him lash out at home, on top of the person he's in love with---being in love with someone else. but when we think about it, that comes all back to kanchan because HE KNEW THAT YUMI WAS IN LOVE W/ SOMEONE & STILL PURSUED THE RELATIONSHIP & thought he could deal with being number two. Similar to how shunna is feeling right now.

    Pidgehardy July 19, 2017 5:47 am
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    Ichigo July 19, 2017 11:48 am

    There are so many responses here that I'm too lazy to read them all. Bottom line is, in reality, noone should be giving mental health advice unless they're licensed. And I agree that the story would be pretty boring if it's about him going to therapy. But I would have liked to see some progressive steps towards healing. Not just jumping into a relationship and that heals all...

    Eva Mark 06 July 19, 2017 11:52 am

    Where did you see it being easy to fix and get over? It took more than 2 years for Hayashida to finally begin a relationship and he's not even at ease with himself because of his past issue with Yumi.
    Also, maybe he should have gone and get some therapy but, like other people said, it's not easy for someone to just go and admit

    Eva Mark 06 July 19, 2017 11:53 am

    Where did you see it being easy to fix and get over? It took more than 2 years for Hayashida to finally begin a relationship and he's not even at ease with himself because of his past issue with Yumi.
    Also, maybe he should have gone and get some therapy but, like other people said, it's not easy for someone to just go and admit they have a problem and people can sometime slowly overcome things even without it.