I struggle to relate to suicidal characters. I just think choosing something as selfish ...

I think the first and last part are fine. But the second part using words like selfish and unlikeable, is so unnecessary and I think, would you tell that to someone that has a suicidal past. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean an author can't write characters with a mental illness.

I don’t think suicide is selfish at all because as someone who had struggles with suicide ideation, it’s veeery hard to get out of that mindset bc it’s like your constantly fighting to gain control of yourself. Depression is no joke and if something bad happens to you, like it could even be a small thing, your mind will automatically make it feel like it’s the end of the world or put blame on yourself making you believe that things will get better if you die.
My advice to you is instead of thinking how suicide affects others, learn more about the victim of it. Mental illness is more complex than you think it is.

If you live for 200 years, haunted with nightmares every night and wake up only to find yourself miserable, i too would want to kill myself. In fact ive tried and failed. People feel pain and sometimes they can't handle it and resorted to all sorts of ways. To say that a suicidal person is selfish when they are hurting is what real selfishness is.

He's basically immortal, so he's probably just tired of living at this point.

suicidal=tired of living but atleast in jaegyeoms case since hes an immortal so we can understand his pov. suicide however isnt selfish because no one really commits suicide as a form of revenge and neither should it be done like that. its more about feeling hopeless and like theres no way out of your life and problems and feeling trapped inside of your life from everything around you, losing the spark of doing things youve once loved, suddenly feeling lazy to communicate which pushes you into isolation. most suicidal people are actually bubbly and happy but you never see whats under their mask because they purposely dont want you to worry, so does that make you think its a selfish thing??

Giving birth to human is selfish but bitches still be humping each other and birthing child in this world full of hardship out of our control.

Suicide for people who went through depression like me was a salvation. Suicide or thought of dead made me feel alive, it made me feel finally free of my thought-tourture. During depression every second of being alive was torture, every second that i took a breathe was like swolling glass shreds. Never ever will I ever blame people who suicide because of depression because I know how I have survived that. Sleepless night, infinite thought that you can't control and it was never my fault.

Meant to down vote lol this might be one of the worst comments I've seen on here

I really hope you invest time in understanding suicide as a concept. We live in a anonymous, lonely and isolated world. Misunderstanding people as selfish, when all they want is to be free of pain and even relieve others of themselves, is so dangerous for people you may encounter or already have around you that are/were suicidal.

OP Here - My sister committed suicide.

I like her less because she made that decision. As a human being she is less likeable because she chose to commit suicide.

The way she chose to commit suicide doesn't help, she intentionally got into a car accident and could have killed other people. Luckily she didn't. But really, she's so much less likeable than she was before she did that.

My sister was my favorite human being.

All you idiots saying I don't understand are so self-absorbed and so selfish, you are the type of people that would choose to commit suicide. It's not a likable quality.

I’m really sorry for your loss. Losing someone to suicide is an unbearable kind of pain, and it’s understandable to feel angry or betrayed, those feelings are part of grief.

But personally, I don’t think people who die by suicide become less likeable or self-absorbsed or selfish. They’re usually struggling with pain so deep that it blocks out any sense of hope or worth, and that’s not a choice made lightly. No one 'wants' to be suicidal, they want the pain to stop.

I can’t pretend to understand the grief of losing someone that way, but I think sometimes the question isn’t “why did they leave 'me'?” but “what was happening to 'them' that made them feel they had no other way out?”

For me, instead of judging their decision, try to learn how to recognize signs of that kind of struggle, so maybe I can reach out before it’s too late for someone else. I think empathy, not anger, is what helps prevent more losses like this :)

One of the worst takes I have ever seen, even considered your family history. Suicide is the last resort, it’s when living hurts so much, you can’t handle it. I usually see people blaming themselves if people around them commit suicide, to me you are the selfish one.

Girl fuck likable quality??? I'm sorry for your sister but saying she suddenly became "less likable" for you ?? I thought love was supposed to be unconditional? Unless you cut open a suicidal person's brain and looked inside and through their thoughts, you have no fucking right to judge them? No one gives a rat ass about "likable quality" once they are freed of their existence, you ass. And clearly you seem to not be into even trying to educate yourself regarding this? Calling people self absorbed as if you are not the same for forcing your "likable quality" ahh feature on people who literally want to end it all

well, im so sorry for what im about to say. but you being exposed to people who have suicidal thoughts doesn't equate you to having fully understand what it meant, and it is clear based on your statement.

It just hurts that you, her sibling, doesn't understand her despite everything she experienced, and would rather see her different and label her "unlikeable". What's unlikeable is you labelling people who struggles with mental disorder and resorting to suicide as "unlikeable quality".

Is it really the suicide of your sister that she involved other people or just her resulting to suicide and leaving you? Would your opinion be different if she died without involving others? Its my first time knowing someone that blames the one who struggled and not themselves for not seeing what they were feeling. I'm not blaming you, maybe thats just how you cope.

But really, try to educate yourself with this kind of information so that you wouldn't just babble things that makes you unlikeable.

i’m very sorry for your loss. my deepest condolences and i’m not trying to be rude in anyway, but i fear you actually don’t understand? what you understand is the grief that comes with suicide, but you don’t actually understand the reason behind why people go to that LAST resort. it’s a mental battle that people go through FOR YEARS. the feeling of helplessness and that cycle of depression that people go through is absolutely excruciating and i genuinely wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. you’re fighting yourself in your head 24/7. it’s a battle you go through whenever you’re awake. that’s why so many depressed people sleep all day. and it’s not like you can physically fight it away or anything. it’ll always be there. it’s a invisible battle that so many people go through.

your indifference and unwillingness to learn about suicide and mental health is honestly very selfish in itself.

it’s ESPECIALLY hard to reach out if people around you are saying things like having suicidal thoughts are “selfish” and doing so makes you “unlikable”. we DONT choose to spiral and be in a depressive state. there are SO MANY factors as to why people would commit suicide. it’s honestly very ignorant to think that people who commit suicide are selfish.

this was honestly so hard to respond to but i believe it’s important to have these types of discussions with people on mental health. i hope this makes sense, but i’m not trying to bash you in any way. again im very sorry for your loss.

You somehow still made your sister suicide about yourself. She wasn't selfish not even 1%, she must have endured it for years to come and finally took her life because that was it.
She isn't unlikable, people around her who couldn't help her are. People who couldn't spare some seconds to listen and understand her are.